The Democrats on Health Care

I'm sure we will both continue to pay.

I think this is wonderful; I applaud everyone that gave! :thumbs:

I believe that in many cases, such as Katrina, the government is better suited to meet the needs. The problem is that the government has not done enough!

It's called taxes and it is part of living in the United States.

You find it strange that someone has differing views based on specific cases rather than someone who parrots the party line, as you do for the Republicans.

I don't enjoy paying taxes, but I understand that it is necessary. Sometimes this tax money is spent on programs I believe in, such as aid for Katrina victims, or aid for the poor. Sometimes it is not spent well, such as bridges to nowhere or tax breaks for the wealthy.

 

The point is, Terry, that I believe we pay more than enough in taxes right now yet your buddies in Congress will , as soon as they are able, hit us with the largest tax increase in history.

If you will contribute whatever amount you would like to see wasted, maybe some of us can use our money constructively instead of it disappearing in the black hole of government waste like yours does.

Deal? raying:

 

I understand your concern. I'm not as comfortable with it as you might think.

I just did my taxes, and yes, I will be making a contribution this year. :laugh:

 

The problem is that neither Congress or the President has the Constitutional authority to spend the American taxpayer's money on these things! I would like to see them do away with income tax withholding and instead require the I.R.S. to send a monthly check to all the taxpayers for the ammount they are taking, I wonder how long it would take for the voters to be come outraged enough to put a stop to all the excesive taxation and wastefull spending.

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul."

—George Bernard Shaw​

"A government big enough to supply you with everything you need is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.... The course of history shows that as the government grows, liberty decreases."

—Thomas Jefferson

"Public servants say, always with the best of intentions, "What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power." But the truth is that outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector."
—Ronald Reagan​

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from the government."
—Thomas Paine​

 

I agree! You're right!

 

yes, I really believe the federal gov't should get out of education. They have no business there, and they've done nothing but mess it all up.

 

So, who is going to fund our educational system?

 

The same people that funded it for the 200+ years before President Carter signed the Department of Education Organization Act into law on October 17, 1979, creating the United States Department of Education.

I believe the United States Department of Education should be abolished, and the States should fund and control their own schools. I support the unimpeded right of parents to provide for the education of their children in the manner they deem best, including home, private or religious, and I oppose all legislation from any level of government that would interfere with or restrict that liberty.

 

Bull's eye!

 

That being said, I would anticipate that you would be one of the first to volunteer to pay the higher taxes it would take to fund this.

Regards,
BiR

 

I don't know about others, but when Katrina evacuees started moving here in droves, my family provided food and clothing and even some money to help a particular family whose home was destroyed.

Now, on top of that, the government will take more of my money away for that purpose. When is my fair share enough?

 

I homeschool my children, and shouldn't have to pay anything for the education, or lack there of in regards to the governement schools, of other families children.

I also support abolishing the I.R.S. and replacing the current tax code with a Constitutional one, decreasing the size and spending of the federal government and reducing the overall tax burden of all taxpayers nationwide.

 

Don't you know that as long you pay taxes and some of that tax money goes to help the poor and disavantaged, that that will put you at the right hand of Christ at the judgment? Feed them clothe them, house them,... and you will be on His right. And leftists say we are not a Christian nation and our laws should not be for the purpose of the gospel! Ain't that as ironic as a bad winter making for a fatter coyote?

 

They have a much greater tendency to do that in a lot of other countries than America. For goodness sake we're below CUBA on infant mortality. Why?



Rankings > Infant mortality rate (All Ascending)

Rank Country Value Unit
1. Singapore 2.28 deaths/1,000 live births
2. Sweden 2.77 deaths/1,000 live births
3. Hong Kong 2.97 deaths/1,000 live births
4. Japan 3.28 deaths/1,000 live births
5. Iceland 3.31 deaths/1,000 live births
6. Finland 3.59 deaths/1,000 live births
7. Norway 3.73 deaths/1,000 live births
8. Malta 3.94 deaths/1,000 live births
9. Czech Republic 3.97 deaths/1,000 live births
10. Andorra 4.05 deaths/1,000 live births
11. Germany 4.20 deaths/1,000 live births
12. France 4.31 deaths/1,000 live births
13. Macau 4.39 deaths/1,000 live births
14. Switzerland 4.43 deaths/1,000 live births
15. Spain 4.48 deaths/1,000 live births
16. Slovenia 4.50 deaths/1,000 live births
17. Denmark 4.63 deaths/1,000 live births
18. Austria 4.68 deaths/1,000 live births
19. Australia 4.76 deaths/1,000 live births
Belgium 4.76 deaths/1,000 live births
21. Liechtenstein 4.77 deaths/1,000 live births
22. Canada 4.82 deaths/1,000 live births
23. Luxembourg 4.88 deaths/1,000 live births
24. Netherlands 5.11 deaths/1,000 live births
25. Portugal 5.13 deaths/1,000 live births
26. United Kingdom 5.22 deaths/1,000 live births
27. Ireland 5.50 deaths/1,000 live births
28. Monaco 5.53 deaths/1,000 live births
29. Greece 5.63 deaths/1,000 live births
30. San Marino 5.85 deaths/1,000 live births
31. New Zealand 5.96 deaths/1,000 live births
32. Aruba 6.02 deaths/1,000 live births
33. Italy 6.07 deaths/1,000 live births
34. Cuba 6.45 deaths/1,000 live births
35. Taiwan 6.52 deaths/1,000 live births
36. United States 6.63 deaths/1,000 live births

 

Often cited, but rarely studied. Some countries don't count the birth for 48 to 72 hours. Some deaths occurring in home deliveries, especially in 3rd world countries like Cuba, are never reported at all.

But, Hey! It's fun to make the US look bad with faulty statistics. Some "Americans" thrive on it.

 

Apples to oranges comparisons can be made to make either the apple or orange look bad can't it? I suspect we'd also see significant differences among various groupings of the population. I wonder if the numbers include abortions never reported.

 

Ah, so are you advocating a race to the bottom for our next generations?

 

Because some America-hating LIBERAL probably came up with this study!

I find it interesting that some among us would rather attack the messenger rather than reflect upon the issue.

HUH?

Regards, hope this post finds both of you and yours well,
BiR

 

The Republicans on health care: