THE DIET THREAD

GrannyGumbo · Jan 21, 2004

How WONDERFUL for you, SallyJo! Keep on, keeping on!

I'm having problems with my elbow lately...every time it bends, my mouth flies open!

Today's "diet" will consist of fresh-ground coffee, 2slcs HoneyWheat(lite) toast w/Can't Believe its Butter spray, orange juice(w/pulp); 3 boiled eggs w/Gourmayo's Wasabi horseradish, sweet(Splenda) icetea, lotsa water, & "maybe" something chocolate(my weakness!)

donnA · Jan 21, 2004

Sue, did you see on the news the other night about Atkins changing their diet? They now say theres too much fat in the Atkins diet, and are now suggesting that the meat and cheese be only 20% of your daily intake of food. Now what do they expect people to eat(?) since Atkins is mostly all meat and cheese,and a few vegetables. Seems people are haivng health problems from eating Atkins becasue of the high fat, so now their changing it to be closer to safer guidelines, which is what we've been taught all these years anyway.

I Am Blessed 24 · Jan 21, 2004

I heard that Donna, but I did not see the newscast, so I didn't know what it was all about.

They have already taken away my sugar and my carbs. I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY FAT TOO!

donnA · Jan 21, 2004

LOL

PastorSBC1303 · Jan 22, 2004

Donna, all of these new reports about Atkins are not coming from official atkins people. Go to Atkins.com Or better yet call the atkins center, the number in on the website. They will tell you the same thing, it is all reports coming for other sources to try spread false info, especially now that Dr. Atkins has passed away. The Atkins diet is still the same and works just as good and is a health way of living.

I Am Blessed 24 · Jan 24, 2004

I saw on the news yesterday that Mrs. Atkins is demanding a retraction of all the false rumors, supposedly started to give new 'low carb' making industries an edge.

She is also demanding an apology from the newscaster who called her husband 'fat'.

The Atkins Diet has been around since 1972 (32 years) and I predict it will be around for a long time to come. I have never heard of anyone dying or suffering ill effects from this diet. It works for me!

§ue (still losing with Atkins)

Dr. Bob · Jan 24, 2004

Did you hear that Atkins died from Mad Cow Disease?

I Am Blessed 24 · Jan 24, 2004

Shame on you Dr. Bob! And shame on the mayor of New York!

NEW YORK — In an unusual display that made even close aides cringe, Mayor Michael Bloomberg yesterday defied the widow of diet guru Robert Atkins — after she publicly sought his apology for mocking the doctor's death.
"I don't think there is anything to apologize for when you tell a joke," Bloomberg told WABC-TV.

"I think my answer is, lighten up a little bit, and you should watch what you eat," he said.

On Tuesday, the mayor found himself recorded at a Brooklyn firehouse news conference telling pasta-chomping firefighters, "Atkins is dead. I don't believe that — that he dropped dead slipping on a sidewalk. Yeah, right."

He said he had met Atkins and the late doctor was "fat."

Earlier yesterday, Veronica Atkins went on WABC-TV's "Good Morning America," where she said, "I was very, very hurt, and I was angry." She said she was "sick and tired of my husband being always maligned and his life's work being trivialized."

Atkins, whose controversial diet stresses eating meat, eggs and cheese over pasta, bread and vegetables, died last year at 72 from head injuries suffered from a fall on an icy Manhattan sidewalk. Veronica Atkins noted that her husband died from "severe trauma to his head."

"His arteries were clear," she said.

Several of Bloomberg's closest aides and allies were stunned into silence by the mayor's latest remarks, sources said.
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Dr. Bob · Jan 24, 2004

Lighten up, Sue. Heard that Ewell Gibbons died of Dutch Elm Disease, too.

And when I die, I'm sure someone will say "Hoof in Mouth Disease" for certain sure.

Did Mayor really mean that? Man, I took it as a joke.

dianetavegia · Jan 24, 2004

LOL oh Dr. Bob!

donnA · Jan 24, 2004

Originally posted by PastorSBC1303:
Donna, all of these new reports about Atkins are not coming from official atkins people. Go to Atkins.com Or better yet call the atkins center, the number in on the website. They will tell you the same thing, it is all reports coming for other sources to try spread false info, especially now that Dr. Atkins has passed away. The Atkins diet is still the same and works just as good and is a health way of living.
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It wasn't someone else, it came directly from the Atkins people. But I agree with the reports, a high fat diet is going to have consequences, now thats a proven medical fact.

donnA · Jan 24, 2004

Originally posted by I Am Blessed 16:
I saw on the news yesterday that Mrs. Atkins is demanding a retraction of all the false rumors, supposedly started to give new 'low carb' making industries an edge.

She is also demanding an apology from the newscaster who called her husband 'fat'.

The Atkins Diet has been around since 1972 (32 years) and I predict it will be around for a long time to come. I have never heard of anyone dying or suffering ill effects from this diet. It works for me!

§ue (still losing with Atkins)
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Sue, of course there have been peole to die from it. I've even told of one one here. Plus when I forst started to research it I found one in a news paper in England who died from Atkins. The low carb craze is so popluar you aren't hearing about it. Not only that I have found several people who have suffered health problems from it and told by their doctors to get off it now. One man almost died, was hospitalized. No, the Atkins people aren't going to tell you about these people.

donnA · Jan 25, 2004

The recent popularity of diets high in protein, such as the Atkins Diet, has led to fears about their effect on the strength of your bones.

The more protein in your diet, the more calcium you lose in your urine. Because your bones are your largest source of stored calcium, there are concerns that the amount of protein eaten by people following the Atkins Diet (or any low-carbohydrate, high-protein diet) will increase the risk of osteoporosis.
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http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/bone.htm

The Atkins Diet, and others like it, trigger short-term weight loss through a process called ketosis. Ketosis occurs whenever the body lacks a sufficient supply of carbohydrates, a prime source of energy. During ketosis, carbohydrate-depleted metabolisms turn to other sources, including ketones from stored fat or protein, to satisfy daily energy needs. (more of Ketosis later)

”So you do lose weight,” Rosenbloom says. “The first bit of weight loss is water weight, the carbohydrate that’s in your muscles, and then as you progress on the diet you will lose some fat, but you will also lose some muscle mass.” ...............

The American Institute for Cancer Research has also evaluated the Atkins’ diet and their assessment is quite alarming. They say that the high-protein, high-fat, low-carbohydrate Atkins diet tends to promote the loss of water weight, and that if such an imbalanced diet is maintained, the body soon reverts to the fasting state of ketosis, in which the body begins to break down muscle tissue instead of fat over the long term.

Ketosis is one of the body's last-ditch emergency responses; deliberately inducing ketosis can lead to muscle breakdown, nausea, dehydration, headaches, light-headedness, irritability, bad breath, and kidney problems. In pregnancy, ketosis may cause fetal abnormality or death. It can also be fatal in individuals with diabetes! While supporters of the Atkins diet concentrate so much on the fat burning capability of ketosis they neglect to mention that over the long term protein, and thus muscle, is also burned!
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People following the Atkins diet should not gorge themselves on fatty foods, says the company marketing it.
Original advice suggested that foods such as butter, meat, cheese and eggs could be eaten "liberally".

Now, however, Atkins Nutritionals suggests that intake of saturated fats should be limited to 20% of total calories.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3408931.stm

"I think these diets are popular because everyone's looking for a quick-fix and the low-carb diet is a quick fix," she says
According to Natasha, who lasted less than a fortnight on a low-carb diet, says she'll never go on one again.

"I felt lethargic and I felt weak and I felt like I couldn't exercise for as long as I wanted to," she says.

The reason low-carb diets work, says Shane, is because in the first couple of weeks you lose a lot of water and you lose a lot of stored carbohydrate — a little bit of fat and a little bit of muscle.

"Really, low-carb diets cause lack of energy, low concentration, potentially kidney problems but longer term there may be a risk of cancer, heart problems, even osteoporosis mainly because the foods that help protect us against these diseases aren't recommended on low-card diets," he says.

Of particular concern to Shane and Tim was the death of a 16-year-old girl in the UK, which the coroner report stated was the result of a low-carb diet.
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http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1596.asp

60 percent of calories come from fat [/qupte]
http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/1/22-81553.html
Now does this sound like good medical advice? It certainly goes against all medical research.

I ahve a friend whose husband was told to sevrly limit eating meat, becasue of kidney problems. Just like the research shows, too much meat can casue kidney problems. But people would rather look for a quick fix to their years of indiscriminate eating instead good sound medical research. People make their own truths, no matter how much evidence says other wise.
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micah · Jan 25, 2004

Hi all. I am so happy I finally got my treadmill. I have really done well I have walked for the last 3 days an hour each time for about 1.5 to 1.63 miles each time.

Dr. Bob · Jan 25, 2004

Micah - Go for it! Do an extra mile for me. And anyone who can walk on a treadmill, praise God for that gift.

I Am Blessed 24 · Jan 26, 2004

I signed up for an exercise class and was told to wear loose-fitting clothing. If I HAD any loose-fitting clothing, I wouldn'thave signed up in the first place!

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When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping", now I just "chunky dunk".

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Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever.

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donnA · Jan 26, 2004

Loose clothing, LOL

Lost another 5 pounds! For a total of 28. Can't wait for class tonight to tell everyone.

I Am Blessed 24 · Jan 26, 2004

28#! WOW! You are losing a lot faster than me!

YOU GO GIRL!

What kind of class are you going to, Donna?

Dr. Bob · Jan 26, 2004

Wow. I'm impressed. And depressed!

Gained way too much on the cruise and haven't started diet and exorcism to rid myself of those pounds.

You go girl is RIGHT!

donnA · Jan 26, 2004

Sue, it's First Place, a christian weight loss program. Putting Christ in first place in everything in life, even in eating, learning to eat right. Anyone can loose weight, and I had lost 23 pounds before I stared, but I wanted to loose the weight with Jesus, not without Him, learning how to not just lose weight, but have Jesus be Lord of even my eating. A lot of people loose weight on thier own, but I wanted to do it with Jesus.
But I still have a lot of work left to do. I make small goals, the next 10 mark(you know like 10, 20, 30), the next 10 is only 8 pounds away, thats my goal. I almost cried at the dr. office when I heard what I weighted today, made one of my 10 marks. I just kept saying praise God I'm makeing it.

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