The distinction between soul and spirit of man

I beleive that each aspect of man is a triparte as well:

1. The body = blood, flesh, bones (each aspect is triparte as well, bones are triparte)
2. The soul = intellect, will, emotions
3. The spirit - conscience, intuition, communion

However, each overlap with the other. The will of man or volition overlaps the soul with the body as the will is what activates the body to perform or act. The conscience overlaps the spirit with the soul of man as it is the conscience that is purged and renewed in regeneration and affects the thinking, feeling and willing of man. Also, the soul not only struggles to control the conscience but cannot control it except by its affects upon the mind (hardened the mind). When the Spirit empowers the conscience then the soul is brought into submission through a repentant condition of the soul.

Intuition in the spirit is distinct from intellect as the intellect functions by learning processes whereas intuition is direct and immediate. We can study and think and ponder and not understand the Word of God but when the Indwelling Spirit in our human spirit wants us to understand he gives direct and immediate knowledge/light or we we refer to knowledge by intuition. The same is true with the lost man when demons indwell the spirit.

The human spirit is the seat of communion with whatever spirit indwells the human spirit. Lost persons are in communion with Satan or one of his demons (Eph. 2:2-3) whereas communion with God occurs in the spirit of man that has been cleansed and washed as the sanctuary of the Indwelling Spirit of God.

 

God provides salvation for the WHOLE man. If we do not understand what constitutes the WHOLE man we cannot understand the salvation provided for the WHOLE man.

I believe it is impossible to understand the present tense aspect of salvation apart from correctly understanding the "soul/life" condition of man. The whole argument over loss of salvation hinges on understanding this aspect.

 

Empty words with nothing to support them!

I have backed my position up several ways. I provided the Romans 7:14-8:13 trichotomy. I completely answered in detail all objections to Hebrews 4:12. NO substantive responses yet!

 

You ASSERTED a point but you PROVED nothing! I both ASSERTED and DEMONSTATED not only my point but proved your assertions were simply that - unfounded assertions. You simply did not look more closely at the texts you were trying to use.

Hebrews 4:12-13 when carefully considered and studied objectively in the light of what it actually says completely destroys every assertion you made about it.

The other texts you simply asserted instead of defended, when carefully examined for what they do say proves nothing in your behalf.

I have placed Romans 7 with a clear trichotomy in your face and you can do nothing with it. Why not lay down your arms and simply come to the table with honest objectivity???

Again, there is repeatedly a conscious "I" in distinct contrast to "my flesh" and "inward man" in Romans 7:14-25. This makes no sense with the dichotomy interpretation.

 

I think we agree on more than we disagree:applause:

 

The "earnest" is not in a context of an engagement or marriage. It is in the context of a "purchase" or buying off the block in a market place. It is the common idea of "earnest" money that backs up a PROMISE that the buyer will return and complete the the transaction. The initial transaction involves the Holy Spirit in SEALING the elect and the final transaction involves the Holy Spirit in uniting soul and body and glorifying it in its final condition.

Both the "seal" and "earnest" have to do with the SECURITY of the believer not an engagement or marriage concept.

You can see how far I got in your article. I will read the rest.

 

On Guam the leadership decided that it would be a good idea to have Island-Wide Charismatic meetings. There were several Charismatic Priests and Nuns who had been detailed to Guam’s extremely old-school Diocese and they had made discreet inquiries about meeting with other Spirit-Filled believers…

Tell me, did these charismatic Preists and nuns abhor and refuse to participate in the Mass? Did they stop their Mariolotry? Did they refuse to act as mediators between their parishners and God? Was there any repentance and faith in the true gospel???

The primary characteristic of the Spirit of God is "Truth" and "holiness." This is precisely why I believe the Charistmatic/Pentecostal movement is not empowered by the Holy Spirit. It will cross over denominational boundaries without affecting doctrine or practice or one's view of salvation - that is the devil not the Holy Spirit.

Benny Hinn relates in one of his books (I have them and have read them) that he went into the Catholic Church and observed Mass with the Priests and Nuns while having a Holy Spirit tongue fest and slain in the Spirit. My take, is that was demonic in its entirety.

 

Will – The seat of who we determine ourselves to be. ???In the non-Pentecostal this part of man reigns supreme and never falters.???

Oh please! You don't have to be a Pentecostal or speak in tongues or be baptized in the Spirit (all are non-Biblical in their character) and "walk after the Spirit." To preach, pray, live, rejoice "in the Spirit" simply means you do these things under His leadership and power of the Spirit of God. John the Baptist never performed a miracle, never spoke in tongues, never was slain in the Spirit but yet was "filled" "preached" and prayed or "walked after the Spirit."

I do not know of a single solitary self-proclaimed prophet within the Pentecostal movement (and there are many) that has not failed the tests of a prophet many times over! The spirit behind them is demonic and their works prove it over and over again. Thus those who follow them and embrace their prophetic character are being led by demons (1 Tim. 4:1; 1 Jn. 4:1-6).

 

Whether a person calls themselves a "prophet" or whether they claim "the gift of Prophecy" makes absolutely no difference IF either introduce their "prophecy" or "visiion" or "dream" in the following manner:

"Thus saith the Lord"
"The Lord showed me"
"The Spirit gave me"
"God said to me"

Any similar introduction in regard to a prophesy, dream, vision places them under the test of a prophet and if any aspect is theologically wrong, does not come to pass" then they are HENCEFORTH AND FOREVERMORE deemed a false prophet as the test of a prophet provides NO SECOND CHANCES but imposes DEATH by God's Word.

Just because we cannot impose the death penalty today makes no difference in regard to that speaker.

 

Well, I will say one thing for you, you are not the typical Pentecostal/charismatic.

Does it not bother you, that all the major leaders in the Penetcostal movement from its inception have come under the condemnation of a false prophet????? No matter where you look in history since the early 1900's every major leader among this movement is by Biblical definition a "false prophet" just as Joseph Smith, Russell, White, Eddy, etc.

It seems that you accept the idea that a false prophet yesterday afternoon can be a true prophet this afternoon?

I have run into Pentecostals who simply dismiss this problem by asking me if I am perfect and do I make mistakes???? My response is, I have never claimed to speak for God and that places you in an entire different Biblical category.