"The Enemy"

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  1. ktn4eg

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    Here lately in sermons, devotions, & in just general discussions among Baptists (this may also occur w/ other denominations or groups, but at least I DO know that it crops up w/in at least some "Baptist" circles) it seems that whenever the speaker/writer/whatever is referring to whom the Word of God usually identifies as the devil or Satan, these folks don't use those biblical terms. Rather they refer to him as "The Enemy."

    While, granted the devil or Satan IS "the enemy," it seems a little strange to me why they seem to shy away from using "the enemy's" real title or name....the devil...Satan.

    I'm wondering...what is the problem with just referring to him as "the devil" or "Satan"?

    After all, if these terms were good enough for Jesus and the Apostles, why is it that apparently they aren't good enough for these speakers/authors/whatever?

    Have they come up with something that Jesus didn't know about? Or are they afraid to use the terms that the Holy Spirit used when He moved the men who wrote the NT? Or maybe it's something else that's never been really clarified to me.

    Can anyone out there in Baptist Forum Land help me out on this?

    I'm not condemning these "The enemy people," I'm just wondering why it is that they use that expression rather than (at least it is in my case) the terms to which he was most commonly referred in the NT texts.

    Does anyone have any info on this?
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Like someone said on an old Pogo Comic:

    We have met the enemy and they is us!
     
  3. APuritanMindset

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    Here's my opinion...no doubt it will tick someone off...

    It's because we have more respect for Satan than we do God most of the time. We get REALLY ticked when someone says "Sure as hell" or "What the hell" but we don't say a word about some of the un-biblical things we do and sing in worship. We don't get mad when people worship God with the wrong kid of attitude. We don't get mad when some of our praise songs are grossly man-centered.

    It has to do with focus.
     
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    I have often wondered the same thing - why some folks always call him the Enemy. I think we give him much more credit than he is due. People act like he is omnipresent and omniscient. I heard someone the other day stop and address Satan in the middle of their prayer to God. (something like "And Satan, we bind you, ...you have no authority in this place...") I think sometimes our minds are also part of the enemy issue. [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, the 'binding and loosing' thing is a false teaching. It just plays right into the hands of Satan and his cohorts - what a kick they must get out of it. Not only is the believer making an idiot out of himself (to the spirit world), he is blashpheming God to boot, by claiming power and legal ground that belongs only to God.

    We are not without power and authority but there is a biblical way to appropriate it, and I don't think it is taught in many places.
     
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    Actually, it is not giving Satan or the devil more credit than he is due. It is simply recognizing that he is our enemy. Most western/American Christians do not know that we are in war. Satan is called the accuser of the brethren. And he is. He stands against Christians and tries to trip them up any way he can. He desires to destroy the people of God , so we rightly call him the enemy (although a defeated one). Sometimes, ya'll just over analyze things to much.
     
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    This is just a guess, but maybe some people say The Enemy instead of Satan or the devil because they think that saying Satan might sound too dramatic or even provocative to some people. Some people are intrigued by Satan (big mistake). I'm not sure I'm saying this very well . . . sort of thinking out loud. :cool:
     
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    Marcia--Could be true about what you posted.

    My real concern is that why is "the enemy" identified in such vague terms by these people?

    If the terms "the devil" or "Satan" were good enough for the Holy Spirit to move men to use when he insipred His Word to be written, why is it no longer "right" or "acceptable" with these "The Enemy" people?

    Do they know something that this poor Christian doesn't? Or are they somehow not wanting to offend the sensibilities of a certain segment of our society thus shy away from calling "The Enemy" what God's Word calls him ("the devil" or "satan")?

    I don't know, but to me it just seems that this is some kind of (probably totally unintentional) policitally (or maybe I should put it as "theologically") correct terminology that we really don't need to be using.
     
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    My pastor uses this term sometimes, but certainly doesn't shy from calling the enemy by name. Satan, the devil, whatever you want to call him, is certainly the enemy. But perhaps some people do not like to say his name because they are superstitious? If he hears his name, he might show up. Or maybe it is from this verse.

    Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
     
  10. Marcia

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    Well, we don't know that these people never say Satan, just that they use the Enemy a lot, or that it's heard a lot in churches. I don't think it's wrong to say the Enemy, as long as one is not doing it to avoid saying Satan. I vary in my terms when I speak -- sometimes I say Satan, I rarely say the devil (because it's a generic term), and sometimes the Enemy. But I do think I say Satan the most often (this is in public talks).

    It could be related to the hell issue -- now that's a topic a lot of Christians shy away from. Saying Satan brings up the idea of hell for many people (both Christian and non-Christian), and so saying the Enemy might seem less controversial. However, it does lend itself to being ambiguous to non-believers.
     

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