The False Prophet: who and why

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    The False Prophet: who and why

    This letter is written to all Christians interested in Bible prophecy.

    Originally, it was never meant to see the light of day. It was developed from a disagreement on Bible prophecy. I was resolved not to send it as I thought it was redundant. It seemed to be a repeat of the issues or a natural conclusion to the facts as stated in my previous letters. Finally, I decided that what I took for granted must be said. Most were either not convinced, or did not understand. Also, this subject matter lends support to my other writings on the end times.

    I never know how to start these narratives. I do not comment on many topics, though I may have an opinion. I treat my words as Gold. I keep all my comments strictly on the end times and frequently asked questions. The main subject is always Satan and how he continues to twist the truth to his benefit.

    Where prophecy is concerned, it always takes time for events to unfold and become easier to see. This was the case with my posts on prophecy . I never envisioned the six month truce happening between Israel and Hamas, brokered by Egypt. Therefore, events as I see them in my mind, are set back 6 months. A lot has happened though in those six months. The economy is a wreck, the stock market has dropped by nearly half, and oil has dropped to around 30 dollars. The only bright spot is cheaper gas prices, which also means that terrorists get less of our petrol dollars. It's really too bad that our economy is so reliant on oil from countries in the Middle East. These same people want to cut our throats. If we were dealing with any other group of people there would be very little problem, but Islam wants to dominate. It wants everyone in submission to it. Christianity and Islam are incompatible, neither one can accept the other. It has always been this way and will never change. When Islam feels threatened, it finds new and improved ways to subvert the masses. Ask yourself this. Why won't Saudi Arabia allow Christians? In the U.S. we call that discrimination, lacking tolerance or being politically incorrect. When they can't have what they want they use our own laws against us. If all else fails and sometimes not, they use the Jihad excuse. I have heard it said many times. This is just our natural response.

    Back to the topic. I was going to keep this part to myself. I really saw no need to post it, but maybe I was wrong. You be the judge. This letter shall be in every place that has received previous posts by me. Therefore, all one has to do to get further explanation is to search out my screen name and all posts by me. This letter is a response to a question from a skeptic. Here we go...


    First of all, I did not set any dates. Furthermore, I have never named the false prophet. I have never named him because I saw no reason to name him. I figured by naming the beast (Mahmoud Abbas) everyone could see who the false prophet was. Since according to you I have committed slander, let's take that one step further. I haven't named the false prophet until this very post. I will not keep silent anymore. Here he is.

    The false prophet is Ismail Haniyeh. Most of you probably don't know who he is, so indulge me for a second. Ismail Haniyeh is the leader of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. He shared power with Abbas for a short time during 2006 in the Unity Government.

    When Hamas chose not to honor the image of the beast, the international community cut off support to Abbas and the Palestinians. The image of the beast is three items; honoring all prior Palestinian agreements, recognizing Israel's right to exist and a renunciation of terror. Hamas enters the picture in Revelation 13:11. They are one horn of the beast, just as Abbas is also a horn. A horn is a king. Hamas exercised all the power of the first beast Abbas and caused them to worship the first beast (Abbas).

    How did Haniyeh cause them to worship the first beast?

    Because Hamas would not honor or abide by any prior Palestinian agreements and continued to sponsor terrorism, he caused the whole world to honor the image of the beast (which was Abbas and his government without Hamas). By not honoring or worshipping the image, Hamas caused the whole world to reject Hamas. This is just exactly the opposite of what Christians are taught. Most believe the false prophet is supposed to lead worship of some manlike image. This is absolutely wrong. The image is the Palestinian Government prior to the arrival of Hamas as a part in it. Hamas caused the world to honor the image. An Image defined by the international community.

    Strong's Concordance translates the word worship as honor. I wouldn't necessarily say the translators made a mistake by using the word worship instead of honor, but surely it confused the situation. BTW, this was by design. We are not supposed to understand until right before the end. Remember, the Lord spoke in parables. Not all are supposed to know...Michael777aka Ephraim
     
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    I am listening but have not formed any hard and fast ideas as of yet. One thing that your post does for me it to once again realize that in the end there will be names attached to many men that Scripture alludes to and those names might well be known to us in this hour.

    Here is something that I have been in consideration of subsequent to the recent elections. I have always thought that the anti Christ will have no love for women, and that consequently he would not be married or have children. I recently have changed my mind on that. I believe that he ‘could be’ a man married with children, having the appearance of a normal heterosexual relationship, but be secretly or at least trying to be secretive, about past homosexual relationships or homosexual desires.

    Here is the catch. If one is a homosexual, regardless of a marriage to a women or the fact that he might have children, does not mean he has a love of women. No man having homosexual relationships can have a true love for women, no more than one can have a love for God and be serving satan. True love and affection is loyal and focused, not divided. You cannot love God and mammon.

    Thoughts?
     
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    I haven't really given much thought as to the antichrists sexual orientation, but I think I need to mention the following. Religion has a way of identifying everything evil as Satan. While the Beast and the False Prophet are apostates of Satan, they are not Satan himself. The antichrist is Satan. He is also known as the son of perdition. Satan will be kicked out of Heaven after the Rapture, Rev. 12. He can only be revealed to the world once he arrives. He will be known to the Muslims as the Mahdi and want to be worshipped as a God. The Beast and the False Prophet are not Satan. They can be revealed. This is what I have done. I have revealed who the False Prophet is and why. In other writings, I describe the Beast and explain his identity also. Nothing I have said is in contradiction. There are three separate individuals; the beast, the false prophet and Satan. If you want more information please read my other posts in this forum. Michael777aka Ephraim
     
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    HP: Satan himself or a man under his complete control? ..and why?
     
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    Here is another way to view it. Every soul must come in the body once. God did it as Jesus and Satan is no different. Most likely, Satan will come as an imposter of Christ or the Muslim Mahdi. He will be a supernatural being and make those around him believe he is God. Christians will not be present on Earth during this time. This is the 3.5 yrs of Revelation 12 also known as the Great Tribulation. So the answer to your question is Satan himself. Michael777aka Ephraim
     
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    HP: Making a statement is one thing, establishing it by solid evidence is yet another. That goes for anything any of us say. I personally see no indication whatsoever of that idea. To take that position one would first be establishing something that so far there is no evidence for, and much evidence to the contrary. Multitudes of angels fell with satan. Where is the evidence that every one of these souls have to come in the body?



    HP: Again I see no evidence that this is true or needs to be true. Many are going to come with false miracles. They are certainly the work of the enemy of our souls but they are not satan himself are they? I see no evidence that the anti Christ will be a supernatural being. It says he is a man, and satan is no man as I see it now. Empowered by a supernatural being? Yes. Supernatural himself? No, not that I can tell from Scripture.



    HP: Where is the evidence of that? Scripture tells me that those that are godly in Christ Jesus “shall” suffer persecution. Why should I believe that we will not be here during the first 3.5 years of the tribulation?
     
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    Where are you getting this "every soul must come in the body once" stuff from? This sounds like Mormonism. We do not have souls before we are born! There are no souls anywhere waiting to be born. Jesus is God the Son incarnate and is eternal - he's not created.

    Satan will not come in a body.
    Satan is an angel - he will not come as a person but will control or influence the beast in Revelation. There is no biblical example of a fallen angel ever appearing as a person. That is why they possess people (when they can; and it's debatable as to whether they possess people today - but that's another thread).

    The false prophet helps the beast. There is no mention of an antichrist in Revelation; in fact, 1 John says many antichrists have gone out into the world.

    (I tried to remove bolding in my text but it didn't work; it's unintentional)
     
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    Marcia: // Where are you getting this "every soul must come in the body once" stuff from? This sounds like Mormonism. We do not have souls before we are born! There are no souls anywhere waiting to be born. Jesus is God the Son incarnate and is eternal - he's not created. //

    That is correct, Sister Marcia - You are so RIGHT ON! :thumbs:

    Those 15-year-olds checking out their sexual nature may end up making a SOUL. Soul making is for adults - somebody needs to tell the kids.
     
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    HP: Marcia, are you saying that this does not directly refer to the anti Christ to come?
     
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    (HP is referring to Rev. 13:18 about the beast)

    I am not sure we should call him "the anti Christ" but I guess if you want to, that's okay. I call him what God calls him, "the beast."

    This verse clearly states that the beast is a man, not Satan.
     
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    It seemed easier for me just to quote myself. I'll add verses where
    they should go in bold.
     
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    Would you answer about why you said something about every soul has to come in a body at least once? This sounds like reincarnation or Mormonism.
     
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    The evil trinity is:
    Satan
    Anti-Christ
    False Prophet

    ....trying to be a mirror image of the True Trinity:
    God
    Son
    Holy Spirit
     
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    Hebrews 9:27, And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement. Doesn't this look like every man's soul will be in a body once? I certainly didn't mean to imply more than once. I hope you didn't think that. Ephraim
     
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