The GOP Is Dying Because The Liberty Movement Is Thriving

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  1. poncho

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    To the point of causing intestinal convulsions, there has been no shortage of analysis on the elections of 2012. Every no-name mop-head mainstream media hack with a niche audience has put in his or her two cents on the finale of perhaps the biggest non-event of the decade and almost every single one of them has been depressingly wrong or completely disingenuous - but perhaps this was to be expected. The word “journalist” has today become synonymous with “whore”, simply because success in the field makes whoredom essential. The job of news outlets is not to report on the facts, but to fashion an illusory world out of manure bricks and glossy paint, and this is exactly what they have done in their musing on the fate of the GOP.

    For any saucer-eyed skeptic who still believes that all disinformation is mere coincidence or personal bias rather than an engineered and coordinated conspiracy, I would like to point out the sudden, similar and simultaneous conclusions of MSM pundits in the wake of Barack Obama’s “victory” in November. You would think that there would be hundreds if not thousands of conflicting ideas about what really happened this year, but instead, Americans are being presented with a chorus of identical viewpoints.

    One meme that is being spread widely in the mainstream that I do actually agree with is that the Republican Party is “dying”. Oh yes, this is undoubtedly true. The GOP is on the fast track to the stew pot (or maybe another pot), but what the mainstream fails to mention is that this is something that alternative analysts in the Liberty Movement have been predicting for years, long before the name “Barack Obama” ever haunted the dreams of average Republicans, and this raises an important question; what did the alternative media see that the mainstream media missed?

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    The GOP is not dying.
     
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    No, it is not. It needs a nudge to the right and some leadership, but it is not dying. In fact, I expect they learned lots of lessons from 2012 that they will not repeat again, such a misjudging minority ratios. They must take a conservative message to every group, and in every state. The GOP has got to find some leadership beyond Mitch McConnell and John Boehnor. It has to be someone who can capture the imagination of the American people, not put them to sleep.

    The first post is nonsense.
     
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    Saturn, I am curious, give me some examples of what you mean by nudge to the right. Give me a short list of ideas you are thinking about.
    You are quite right.
     
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    A Presidential election is lost, and the Republican Party's extinction is suddenly predicted.:rolleyes:

    Never mind that the same party controls the House.

    I agree with others that the OP is nonsense.
     
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    Nevermind it's low approval rating.

    What makes people keep voting for things they do not approve of. Got any ideas?
     
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    Because we eat GMO food we are easily brainwashed by the (controlled) liberal media?
     
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    The G.O.P. ain't dead, it just stinks.
     
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    Proves absolutely nothing with regard to your hope of the death of the Republican Party.


    Viable third party candidates.
     
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    The term "Congress" or "House of Congress" often refers to both the house of representatives and the Senate. It never stands for just one single party.
     
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    A thought: Would a dying party occupy the governors' mansions of the majority of the states?
     
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    Okay, define "viable". If you use the word conservative in the definition could you also define that?

    You see I'm still a bit confused about that. Today's conservatism is quite a bit different from the conservatism I grew up with.

    Sure why not? If enough people were convinced that winning elections was the most important thing in politics I can see how it could happen.
     
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    There is always an apex before the decline begins.
     
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    I am conservative, but not card carrying Republican (the party is too liberal). What amazes me and disappoints me is the number of those who claim to be Christian, then vote for a party or any individual who approves of murdering innocent children in their mothers womb.

    They claim that as long as they are against it then it does not apply to them. When just by their support of such actions and laws puts just as much blood on their hands as the doctor doing the murder. They are deceiving themselves when they claim to love God then vote for those who support murdering these little children.

    I figure if only the legal votes were counted then the outcome would have been different, but maybe, just maybe, God is not through punishing the USA for turning it's back on Him and then lying about it.
     
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    For the purpose of this this thread, my use of the word viable means a candidate whose chance of getting into office is viewed by the voting public as being achievable.

    Agree.
     
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    I suppose it can be said the Democratic Party's about to start dying, too.;)
     
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    Time will tell.

    We need at least two viable parties. A one party state always results in bad things happening ... one of the lessons of history.
     
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    Is it not the two parties and the six corporate television networks that decides which candidates are viewed by the voting public as being viable?

    Shouldn't we be the ones who choose which candidate is viable by voting in line with our own principles rather than letting the parties and monopoly networks manipulate our views about who is viable and who is not?

    We don't need a political pundit or corporate talking head to tell us what our principles are do we? No of course not. So why should we let the pundits and corporate talking heads tell us which candidate is worthy of our vote?
     
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    I do not know if I agree or disagree in that I am not sure what you have in mind. Would you elaborate on this? How would your ideas be put into play?
     
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    Vote in line with our principles and convictions period. Even if all the parties men and all the six corporate television networks and all their corporate talking heads tell us that by doing so we are wasting our vote.

    Consider how hard pressed the republican party was to nominate an establishment candidate.

    Does that sound like something a healthy party would do?
     
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