The great apostacy or falling away...fulfulled on 11/6/12?

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  1. webdog

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    And the majority voted for a false god worshiping Romney. So if there is a falling away, it must be amongst ALL evangelicals that voted for either of them.

    I do however like the way one older woman put it:

    BRAVO to her:applause:
     
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    Nothing to do with Romney. Everything to do with supporting values that go against God's Word and openly backing them. Its not against biblical standards to hire the lost to work for us. If it were you would be guilty each time you saw the dentist, doctor, mechanic, etc.
     
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    WHy does it have nothing to do with Romney? Isn't worshiping a false god a value that goes against God's word? How is supporting someone who worships a false god any less against supporting Godly values than is supporting someone who endorses same sex marriage?
     
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    Nice evasion. Nobody is supporting Romney's religion. We are supporting his stance on issues that coincide with biblical standards.

    Are you tying to support the christian affirmation of Obama?
     
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    I don't know of too many Christians who were supporting President Obama's religion either.

    And the Christians who supported Obama said the same thing about his stance in helping the poor and those in need.

    No more than several keep trying to support the Christian affirmation of Romney.
     
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    Scripture says that in the great falling away, many false teachers will deceive many in all sorts of ways. For example, a person might mimic believing Scripture and the truth of the Gospel, but merely be using them as tools for an evil purpose. A mixture of half truths and evil can be very hard to discern.
     
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    Right, like those people who mimic belief in Scripture but continue to hide behind their hypocritical harassing disobedience to Scripture in order to try and make an evil political point that has nothing to do with God.

    That is an excellent Scripture you mentioned to keep us alert about that sort of person.:thumbs:
     
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    Political points have nothing to do with Scripture. Scripture is Holy. Politicians are not. One does not mix with the other. Anyone who believes Scripture is the Word of God would not play games. My only fault in this whole matter is slow to discern.

    As was repeated before, it is against BB rules to accuse others of having false agendas, so I will not.
     
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    If it was the start of an American apostasy it started a long time ago, possibly with Roe v Wade.

    But the Biblical 'falling away' is not focused on 6% of the world's population. America does not determine prophecy. There are about 6.7 billion people who are not American.

    I also think it sad that the article had to separate white and black Christians to make a point.
     
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    Yes, you have an excellent point. 300 million compared to 6.7 billion is not much. We as Americans think we are the center of the Lord's attention over others. Maybe a better way to put it is we think we are the center of attention. Anyone who works in retail can give first hand experience of how demanding we are.

    We have a strange habit of mixing politicians in the US with Scripture and the church. No two entities could be farther apart. Used car salesmen and TV preachers are higher on the list than politicians. To argue that this candidate or that candidate did not meet Biblical standards is almost comical if it was not pathetic. A step beyond that are those that use Scripture in a flippant manner to further their agenda.

    I know an individual who lost his job over repeated frustration with a demanding public. He was working the counter at a fast food place, and had many angry coustomers that day in particular. One customer came up, screaming at the person that the mustard had been put on the tomato side instead of the burger side like requested. She was holding open the burger in his face screaming. So, finally, he said let me see, took the bun, said you are right, and proceeded to smear the bun and mustard on her face. That is why I do not work with the public. I can picture myself doing that long before he did.
     
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    Careful that in an attempt to state our position, we put down others.
     
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    You know since we cannot tell the wheat from the tares, we truly don't know who is a genuine Christian in America today. This hyped up stuff gets all distorted by claiming how Christians voted when some or most of them may not even be true Christians. IMO

    Don't put much stock in how the guy/gal votes who never who only has a "said faith." We need to be more committed to converting these lost people and that will in turn bring them to the polls with the right state of mind.
     
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    I see that Obama's share of Protestant Christians decreased from 45% in 2008 to 42% in 2012.

    I see that Obama's share of born-again Christians decreased from 24% in 2008 to 21% in 2012.

    The problem was that Romney's campaign did not energize evangelicals to get out and vote. Apparently Sarah Palin was the catalyst in 2008 and Paul Ryan didn't do much for them.
     
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    Perhaps the great falling away is Christians losing sight of what God has commissioned us to do in relation to what we want to accomplish.

    When you've got evangelicals removing Mormonism from the list of cults in order to possibly score political points, it's evident that a whole lot of folks took their eyes off God's agenda and placed it on their own.

    But that's why there is division in the Body. We are to be one in Christ and that doesn't happen when we're trying to rally each other around the things of this world instead of the things of God's word.
     
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    78% of evangelicals voted for a man who is against Jesus Christ. THAT is a falling away.
     
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    We are not voting for a pastor, but voting for a president.
     
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    Then if we're not voting for a pastor, there shouldn't be any discussion of either candidates morals.

    The word of God says In all your ways acknowledge Him,
    And He will make your paths straight
    Pro. 3:6

    So if I'm acknowledging God in ALL my ways, why would I not put a vote and candidates up against the crucible of His word?
     
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    Or is it that the percentage who voted for Romney did not do so because he is "against Jesus Christ", but because his policies were viewed as being closer to Biblical morality (among other reasons) than Obama's?

    I don't understand why you're still arguing the point. Your guy won.
     
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    God hasn't called us to be closer to Biblical morality. He's called us to be OBEDIENT COMPLETELY. And a lot of folks seem to have forgotten that close ain't good enough when dealing with right and wrong.

    My Guy won a long time ago and is sitting on His Throne. As for YOUR election, I didn't have a dog in the race.:flower:
     
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