The Heart Revealed

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  1. steaver

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    Imagine yourself creating a charity to help the poor and needy around the globe. It becomes a huge success! Millions upon millions of dollars pours in, the poor are fed, life saving medicines are given. What a wonderful success! What a heart for such an undertaking!

    And then you decide you would like to be the President of the USA. But they tell you if you become President you will have to shut down your charity, you cannot be President and run your charity at the same time. Would you decide to shut down your charity? Let's reveal the heart, Why did you really start this charity if you are so willing to shut it down in exchange for your own self desires? Why would you shut down such a successful charity which is doing far greater works than any government or government official has ever done or could ever do?

    "And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love,but their heart goeth after their covetousness" (Eze 33:31).
     
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    It's not Hillary's foundation to shut down. It's in her name, Bill's name and Chelsea's name.

    This is nothing but another sad attempt by the GOP to thwart anything that might help people.

    And nobody has told them that they have to shut down the charity.

    The FOX News machine, the GOP surrogate, is the one that started all this shut it down stuff. And like he has with so many previous Fox News ideas, Trump started talking about a special prosecutor.

    He needs to get a special prosecutor to look into his dealings with the Russians.
     
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    Then why are the Clintons talking about shutting it down if Hillary becomes Pres?
     
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    Not sure what you mean. What has the GOP done to thwart anything that might help people??
     
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    They were talking about not taking donations from foreign governments from what I heard this morning. That may have changed.
     
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    This foundation has championed the rights of the poor and marginalized all over the world. The GOP consistently is against things that tend to help people who don't fit the bill of their average member, or who would dare do something in a non-GOP sanctioned way.

    The notion that comes from the GOP often seems to be "let's find someway to destroy it or shut it down".

    And Sean Hannity (wonder why he plays such a role) has the audacity to talk about the politics of personal destruction.

    The GOP doesn't like that the CF accepted money from foreign governments but their nominee's "empire" has a $950 million dollar loan from the Bank of China.:Sneaky
     
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    So again I ask...What has the GOP done to thwart anything that might help people??
     
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    So again I say:

    The GOP consistently is against things that tend to help people who don't fit the bill of their average member, or who would dare do something in a non-GOP sanctioned way.

    The notion that comes from the GOP often seems to be "let's find someway to destroy it or shut it down".
     
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    Lol. Again you gave no example....
     
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    So why would a person abandon their own charity, which is flourishing around the world, for a political position? Would you? Looks like a heart matter.....
     
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    That WAS an example of what they do. Just like they are trying to shut down the CF.
     
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    You keep saying abandon and shut down. Where have you heard that she or the family is abandoning anything?

    And gosh, she can affect far more around the world as President of the United States than she could ever hope to affect with the CF.

    Maybe that's where her heart is because you're certainly trying to make it seem like perhaps she doesn't care about all those lives the CF has helped. Maybe she sees a chance for her heart to affect even more?

    The foundation isn't going anywhere. They just aren't accepting money from foreign governments.
     
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    The purpose of the Clinton foundation was the personal enrichment of the Clinton's and to advance Hillary's presidential aspirations.

    It has served it's purpose well.
     
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    Brother, you said this is just another example of the GOP attempting to thwart ANYTHING that might help people. So give us some examples of the GOP thwarting the helping of people. And the GOP is not trying to thwart helping people with Hillary's situation, they simply don't want our public officials giving favors for cash. Are you saying you are ok with them giving favors for cash? Hillary doesn't have to pull out of the charity, if she really cared about the foundation's good deeds she would pull out of the election and stick with the foundation.
     
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    Affect for the good??? How? By propping up Planned Parenthood? Yeah, she really cares about the children. And if she cared about the women she would support legislation to inform women of just what an abortion is before they get one so they do not find out later and suffer from mental anguish. If she cared about children she would support school choice. All she cares about is Hillary and how much money she can make through deals. She is looking at the Presidency for what she can get out of it for herself. Look at out first black President, what did he do for the black communities in eight years?? NOTHING! Democrats need to keep their base poor. They do not want them gaining nothing but handouts. I pray one day they will see the truth of how the democrats have used them.
     
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    You are asking the impossible of the impossible.
     
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    You wouldn't have to shut it down - just resign your positions - and let some other trusted person run it.
    Or doesn't Hillary trust anyone - or is it no one would trust Hillary.
     
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    Name a social program and you're just about guaranteed that the GOP is against it and trying to cut the government funding to it.

    The concern has been the public figures from other countries. And they don't have any proof that she has given favors for cash. This is just another biased GOP attack because they don't like the Clintons. So yes, they will hurt a lot of people by trying to shut down the CF but they don't care.

    This is another Fox News Corporation hit job that's pushed by their commentators and then spreads to conservative talk like wildfire as though it's the truth.
    Are you saying that you have proof that she's presented favors for cash?

    She can really care about the foundation and be President at the same time. She's nimble.
     
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    Sounds like media-tainted bias speaking. You don't know enough about her personally to say one way or the other if she really cares about the children or the women. But you obviously have criteria by which you feel such caring should be judged.

    Again, a biased statement of which you have no proof. You're stating your opinion about what you think her motives are. Her public record contradicts your opinion.

    The first black President was the President of ALL the people, not just black people. Sure he may have wasted a lot of opportunity to really affect some things in the black community.But had he zeroed in on anything like that, a lot of the white bigots in the United States would have had a field day.

    They didn't even like that he spoke up about if he had a son, he would have probably have looked like the murdered Trayvon Martin. So don't get all puffy about what he didn't do for the black community when the GOP made it clear before he even took office that they were gonna ty to make sure that he didn't get to do anything.:Sneaky


    They couldn't do that without the help of those wonderful members of the GOP. I suppose the GOP , if you look at a DT rally, needs to keep its base poor, illiterate and filled with racial bigotry.

    And perhaps the poor, illiterate, racially bigoted base of the GOP will one day see that the GOP elite has used them to pad their own pockets while doing nothing for them.:Whistling
     
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    Ok, her public record is she supports Planned Parenthood's slaughter of babies in the womb and rejects any legislation that would require women be educated on abortion before an abortion is performed. So yes I can form an educated opinion from her record. Are you ok with the slaughter of the unborn?
     

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