The Neoconservative Empire

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  1. Rufus_1611

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    The Neoconservative Empire by Ron Paul

    Watch Ron Paul's speech on video.

     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Impeach Ron Paul!!!

    (BTW, who is Ron Paul? I need to re-load my vidio watcher??)

    Sorry, a text link was present also:

    The Opening Post (OP) says:
    //[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.//

    Ah, that explains a lot. I went to Texas to defend the USonian way of
    life. My sons and grandsons, daughters and grandaughters will NOT
    be going to Texas to defend anybody.

    The reason that seems to escape Ron Paul is that the US will loose face
    if we don't stay the course (another 60 years should be enough) in Iraq.
    If we loose face every tinhorn dictator will be at war with us.
    (and some of those pettey dictators will have nuclear weapons soon).
    Check back with me when you have read ten books on the effects
    of using nuclear weapons have on the ecology of the world.
    Even a few nuclear weapons exploded over India can kill millions of
    people in the USofA. This is the 21st century: our borders are in
    Iraq, Afganistan, Saudia Arabia, Iran, North Korea, and you get the
    idea. And if that isn't a good enough reason to follow Pres Bush, how about
    them Aussies - they are worth defending.


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  3. Rufus_1611

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    At least you admit we're an empire.
     
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    We've been an empire since 1845 when the Sovereign
    countries of Tejas and the USofA joined together.
    We are one of the few countries in the world that changes
    our dictator by the calendar (every 4 to 8 years)
    instead of when we get tired of them.
     
  5. church mouse guy

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    Well, Ed, we have only been in Korea since Truman so I don't know why you lack optimism. Of course we have been in German and Italy and Japan since FDR and the Phillipines since the other Roosevelt.

    Hey, we may be broke and bankrupt but our credit is still good and we can borrow some more and give it away somewhere. It is not Uncle Sam but Uncle Sugar.

    I guess that we will be in Babylon for a few more years but with history ending in catastrophe it may not be as long as we think.

    But I would like Dr. Paul--what a phoney--to tell me what kind of a world it will be when he and Hillary cut and run from Iraq in January 2009. Just tell me how long it will be before the next Nine Eleven and who will take the blame for the next attack on Washington DC?
     
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    I just got off a conference call with the Hon. Ron Paul, one of the only conservatives left in Washington. This conference call was in reference to his announcement that he is running for president in 2008!
     
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    :applause: Yay! Yahoo!
    Ron Paul is a very articulate person and pretty much speaks for how a lot of Americans feel, including me.
     
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    Well, Dr. Paul will claim that it is my fault on the next Nine Eleven for listening to a nut like him.
     
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    Ron Paul in National Presidential Debate April 4th 2007



    Ron Paul has accepted an invitation to participate in the first nationalpresidential debate in New Hampshire on Wednesday, April 4. It will be hosted by Wolf Blitzer and will be carried on CNN TV, radio, and cnn.com from 7-9p.m. EST.
     
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    Praise God! I thought for sure the media was going to shut him out of the debates. He deserves to be heard.
     
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    Naw, he doesn't deserve to be heard. He doesn't pay his dues to the GOP. Congress voted to install this new general who asked for more troops. Ron Paul appeals to the fringe element in the GOP, former Libertarians and former members of the Constitution Party. The GOP cannot run a withdrawal candidate against Hillary and win. She has already promised to end the war no matter what in January 2009. Americans who want that platform should turn to Hillary.

    The GOP always nominates the front-runner. That is the way the party has worked since the beginning. The front-runner is Guilliani. We are not going to be dictated to by the Constitution Party, controlled by white militia types like Greg Dixon.
     
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    You base your views of who deserves to be heard on who "pays his dues" to a party? What does that mean exactly? He doesn't suck up to corporate interests enough? Doesn't kiss Ws finger? Is this pay your dues concept developed by your boys Marx, Trotsky, Stalin or Lenin?

    Well if he gets the nod at least the Republicans will be a bit more honest about killing babies and less subtle about it.

    Please provide evidence for your claim that Greg Dixon is a white militia type. If he was a militia type, wouldn't the IRS raiding his church house and bull-dozing it, have been cause for going all militia on 'em? He had offers from militia types to get serious on the feds, he declined those offers and still you libel him?

    "We don't believe in picking up weapons and going out and shooting people, and killing them and doing harm to them, because the Bible tells us to love our enemies." - Greg Dixon Sr.​
     
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    You mean conservatives? Personally I think Ron Paul appeals to anyone who believes in the rule of law.
     
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    But Ron violated the Eleventh Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of any republican."

    It was this morally-neutral principle that made possilble the careers of Tom DeLay, Mark Foley, and George Bush.
     
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    What do you know about the GOP? You are a life-long Democrat and you take the straight Vatican line all the time.
     
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    Rufus, no one bull-dozed Greg Dixon's run-down old building near Garfield Park here in Indianapolis unless it was because it was full of rats and roaches and was razed for urban renewal. Dixon is very unpopular in Indianapolis. The government had to delay taking possession of his building for taxes because he brought a bunch of armed men from southern Indiana into the building for several days. When the day finally came that he had to leave or pay his taxes, he refused to walk out like a man and forced the black person in charge to carry him out.

    Then he went and begged the government to let him use Indianapolis public school Manual High School auditorium for his church. So much for not having your church have anything to do with the government and the unregistered churches. You can hardly be unregistered if you are using Manual High School auditorium. Dixon is a total phoney. Even his former friends in Indianapolis ignore him. His church has now moved to an all-white upper-middle-class area of Indy in the general area of a historic KKK stronghold. No one has ever broken his hold to the white militia movement in southern Indiana around Spencer, Indiana. I do not know what elements are in that white militia movement in Spencer, although they might just be rural poor whites who like to go armed.

    This is all off the subject of Ron Paul but demonstrates the strange elements inside the Consitution Party which is attracted to Ron Paul, making him suspicious to the GOP. The Constitution Party should be quiet if they want to help Paul and the Libertarians, too, but there are no Republicans much for Ron Paul anyway.

    As for the fact that Guilliani will not be the leader for the Christian conservative agenda, that does not mean that he will block or stop the Christian conservative agenda. Guilliani will be nominated because the GOP will support the use of military force overseas and the Democrats and the Ron Paul Republicans will oppose the use of military force overseas and will vote for the Democrat Party to withdraw from the war in Iraq by January 2009.

    Ron Paul will lose early because he has given no vision of foreign policy future after he cuts and runs. Republicans went international under Wendell Wilkie, popular Hoosier GOP leader, and as a party they have never turned back.

    To me, Ron Paul is a do-nothing and let Satan rule kind of guy.
     
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    I know you are old CMG, but I did not think you were senile yet!

    I'm the person who is a "life-long Democrat. Galatian is a Libertarian. Don't you even know the difference?

    BTW, why do you hate Catholics?
     
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    Ha! Ha! Terry. Galatian has nothing but praise for Democrats and nothing but brickbats for Republicans, much like you yourself, wouldn't you agree? I guess that you are too young to understand but I don't hate Catholics as you say, but I do know that Catholics like Galatian, who seems to be a very devout and loyal Catholic, take their anti-war stance from the late Pope, who disliked Bush and disliked the USA. Galatian thinks that a Baptist goes to hell no matter what so why should I think that he cares a fig about me? When you are older, Terry, you will understand how the doors of The Vatican are closed.
     
  19. JGrubbs

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    You mean those conservative voters who believe in abiding by our US Constitution, restoring our Constitutional Republic, protecting our borders, decreasing the size and power of the federal government, etc.

    Guilliani is a pro-abortion, pro-gay liberal who will do nothing but continue the Bush administrations destruction of our country and work to open our borders to create a North American Union, and there will be millions of GOP voters like your self who will blindly support him out of fear of Hillary Clinton.
     
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    Well, Grubbs, when did you leave the Constitution Party? Who was that tax lawyer that you supported last time? Peroutka? http://www.peroutka2004.com/

    It is interesting to hear your lecture about what the GOP should do. One wonders if your advice is not really for the benefit of your own party? Why should I seek to have the GOP follow the advice of the Constitution Party since 2004 showed that the Constitution Party is not necessary for a GOP victory?

    Grubbs, you have one issue--the same one that you had in 2004 when Peroutka declared the war in Iraq unconstitutional. You want immediate troop withdrawal. Hillary has promised to do that by January 2009.

    Since 2004, the Constitution Party has presented no comprehensive foreign policy statement of the consequence of a retreat into 1930s isolationism. The GOP is not going to turn back the clock for you and the former Libertarian Ron Paul.

    By the way, the Libertarian Party has about the same stance on moral issues as the Democrats. They just don't want to spend as much money as the Democrats.

    Grubbs, maybe you and the others who support Paul should try to persuade the Democrats to spend less money and then you could vote Democrat because you like Democrat foreign policy? Wouldn't that be the real solution to your political situation, Grubbs?
     

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