The Obama Win: Explanations And Theories

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/11/macro_spin_divide_in_two.php
     
  2. carpro

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    Obama won primarily because his opponent is not a Conservative.
     
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    NOT directed at any poster - but here is the answer


    "It's the economy stupid'
     
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    What about media bias?
     
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    Had the black vote sewed up with his color.
    Had the liberal vote sewed up with his liberalness.
    Had the poor vote sewed up with his give aways and hands off the illegals.

    Add in all the voters that don't keep up on what's going on and you have - how could he not win? :laugh:
     
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    Obama won because the Bush administration has promulgated 4 (8?) years of evil. Try as they might the Republican candidates could not convince the voters that they are not really Republicans.
     
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    That's not so, even if the Conservatives didn't vote for McCain they sure voted against Obama.

    When that guy stood up and said he was scared... And when that woman said he was Arab... The black fellow who begged McCain with tears in his eyes... Even if they didn't want McCain, they were voting against Obama.
     
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    In my view this was debatable... I know what the percentages of the reports said but I don't recall there being too much negative in the Obama camp to report. Obama ran the most disciplined campaign in modern history. Most of the negative events happened in the McCain camp. You can't report what doesn't happen.

    Now they did report the spread the wealth comment and certainly the Biden gaffs but that was the bulk of the Obama negative press...

    Unless you can remember more that wasn't reported.
     
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    You sure don't give the average person much credit...
     
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    Well, I know that the featured news on sites like TheWallstreetjournal, The Chicago Tribune, and whatever organization is responsible for the news articles that show up on MSN and Yahoo all were extremely pro-Obama. For example, a lot of economists think that Obama's plan to tax the top 5 percent is a disastrous move, but these economists only had a venue on Fox news(at least this is my impression, Obama's tax plan did not get scrutinized by the media much).

    I also know that as a whole, pro-Obama articles kept surfacing on Wired, Slate, and the American Prospect.
     
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    Well now that Obama has been declared the victor will anyone be checking to see if any of ACORN's bogus registrations actually voted?

    Or do we not care about voter fraud?
     
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    If I had to approximate...
    40% being the Democratic candidate
    15% because the economy has taken a dip which is noticeable to/felt by most voters
    15% because of Bush, and McCain believed to be a continuation of the Bush presidency
    10% because of the novelty of a black or mixed race candidate (consider the interviews with celebration participants)
    15% other attractions [state/region, talking environment, 'soak the rich,' intelligent demeanor]
    5% other reasons [vote only because persuaded & offered transport, to 'make history,' to be given the modern equivalent of "40 acres and a mule,"...]
     
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    As to media bias, George Stephenopolis (sp) and his panel admitted on air that the media had been biased.

    As to "You sure don't give the average person much credit..." snide remarks make not proof - if I'm wrong prove it :thumbs:

    "Had the black vote sewed up with his color." Blacks said they were voting for him because he was black.

    "Had the liberal vote sewed up with his liberalness." I'm sure not many conservatives voted for him so all those votes came from somewhere.

    "Had the poor vote sewed up with his give aways and hands off the illegals." You can bet many welfare folks and those wanting all the goodies voted for him.

    "Add in all the voters that don't keep up on what's going on and you have - how could he not win? :laugh:"

    The youtube video of people asked why they liked Obomba that didn't know McCain from Obomba's positions rather proves some of this was right.

    "You sure don't give the average person much credit..."

    Your comment seems to assume liberals voted blindly for another liberal - could be just as some conservatives vote blindly for conservatives - when they have one.

    And most important note the smiley face that indicates funny, humor, tongue firmly in cheek etc.
     
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    With a democrat winning, there won't be any lawsuits.

    That's where all the whiners are.
     
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    Anyone that says the corrupt old media wasn't in the tank for Obama is in dire need of a brain search. Their heads have to be empty.
     
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    I don't recall them scrutinizing the McCain tax plan so I don't see your point. There were economist to include fact check and a non-partisan tax organization who said McCain's policies would leave us higher in debt at the end of this administration.

    Those were not sites I read but I have to ask again, how much negative stuff came from the Obama camp that didn't get covered? In my view, the McCain camp continually had negative stuff coming up which is why more negative was reported.
     
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    Didn't it conclude ACORN only registered 400K voters? Obama won by more that that so what would it matter.
     
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    All your statements stereo type and put all Obama voters in narrow categories. Perhaps some didn't know his positions but there were some conservatives who believed the lies were truth. Think of that woman who got up and said he was Arab??? And like you said, I agree there were some blacks who voted for him because he was black, there were some whites who didn't vote for him because he was black.

    So your points are inclusive which isn't given the average person much credit for being above those narrow bullet points.
     
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    I haven't seen that, do you have a link? I know of some who were afraid not to vote for their fear Obama would win.
     

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