The Pope has spoken

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  1. windcatcher

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    This really bothered me: The pope will worship in a Mosque besides Muslims but proclaims other churches, not RC, as 'defective'? Isn't he supposed to have past ties to a RC order which historically was responsible for executing the inquisition? Is history about to be revisited? Nothing new under the sun!
     
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    Since the Catholic church believes the Popes words are God's words I wonder how they square all the changes over the years. This guy is a heretic.
     
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    Don't let it bother you. This is the kind of thing the mother of harlots does.

    Yes. It has once again been made acceptable practice to torture and kill human beings.

    Nope.
     
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    Well whoopity, whoopity do!!!

    The Pope speaks!!!! So did an .....let's just call it a DONKEY... In the Bible!

    Not much changes.


    This guy has already done away with Limbo...which is the basis for infant sprinkling... so what is next do away with infant sprinkling....

    The RCs are so confused....
     
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    This man came from the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith". Otherwise know as the Office of the Inquisition. The name was changed for political expediency but its methods, puposes and motives have never changed.

    Hence, one should not be surpirsed by whatever this man does. Get familiar with what the Inquisition did in the past besides the torture and murder of the millions of innocent people. It was also a POLITICAL office which sought to woo the secular powers to execute the wishes, schemes and plots of the Papacy for worldwide dominance. Nothing has changed.

    Consequently we should not be surpirsed by the Papacy courting favour with the Mohaamedans. They have done it before. In fact, I have seen some documentation which suggests that Islam as it is known today was an invention of the Inquisition for control of the Middle East. Most, if not all of the trappings of Mohammedanism are mirrored in the trappings of Orthodox Catholicism.
     
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    Tell me, with the Catholics and Muslims combined, does this not create a perfect base for a one world religion, with over half the world involved?
     
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    I've thought this very thing...a quasi-religion combining the two. If the pope can change things on a whim, there is nothing stopping the pope and the rc's from embracing islam.
     
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    As soon as I read this, the words from an old song came into my mind:
    "It won't be long, we'll soon be leaving here.
    It won't be long, we'll be going home."
    Come quickly Lord Jesus!
     
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    Amen! I hope my family and I are part of the generation that doesn't see death, but are taken up to be with the Lord!
     
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    This is totally NOT going to happen. It is completely unrealistic for one to entertain the idea of several hundred million Catholics embracing Islam or vice versa. It is just fanciful thinking IMO.
     
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    If you concentrate on finding the common ground, it's not so unrealistic. It would also draw a lot of the "can't we all just get along" crowd into it.

    For example - and this is not something that I want to debate here - if you see Allah and God the Father as one and the same, but one religion (or both, as the case may be) distorts him, then you have the common ground of the same God. (I think this is important common ground in pointing out the errors in Islam, JW's, Mormonism, etc.) Well, if you simply stop there, instead of pointing out the flaws, you might not be able to worship in the same room, but you are "allies" of sorts, against a common enemy.

    So, you focus on the commonalities, ignore the differences, suddenly you have 1.5 billion Catholics and 1.5 billion Muslims allied, drawing in all sorts of those who really want and think that all religions are really just the same, suddly you have about half the world allied under one big umbrella, without even a whole lot of effort. Does this leave room for others? Certainly. Even atheists. How many atheists do you think would die in support of their belief that there is no God? "Oh, well, I'll just go along with this silliness to avoid persecution." Taoism is very compatible in many beliefs of even Baptists (do unto others as you would have them do unto you), much less a generic God-based religion, and there are a lot of taoists in the world.

    On and on.

    Have you ever met a person who thinks that all religions are equally valid? I don't mean someone who thinks there are points of commonality, but who thinks they are equally valid with nothing really right or wrong? There's a whole bunch of 'em.
     
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    What's more likely to happen...the islamofascists embracing those who their quran states are infidels, and should be exterminated...or the masses following the "vicar (substitute) of Christ" and his latest orders to embrace parts of islam?

    There will eventually only be one world religion. You take your pick which is more likely to happen...
     
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    Another commonality to consider is the Fatima angle and how that seems to unite the two faiths in their goddess worship. The Pope himself seems to think that Mary is the key to linking the two faiths.

     
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    I dismiss the comments of the Pope out of hand. I don't believe the Roman Church is a Christian Church and I doubt the Pope is even saved (though I can't say for sure).
     
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    There have been intense discussions on this board about whether Catholics can be saved. I always said it was possible, but not easy. There is no way I would serve in a church that limits salvation to a certain denomination or group of people based on some man made division.

    That being said, for the head of the Catholic Church to say all others are lost is about the most ridiculous statement that can be imagined.
     
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    It seems as if Pope Benedict XVI is doing everything he can to alienate people. First, he angered many Muslims by quoting a medieval ruler who said Islam is voilent, then he reinstitutes the medieval Latin mass, angering liberals and Jews, and now he declares that the Eastern Orthordox churches are "defective" and that other Christian denominations are not true churches. That guy is stuck in a time warp. He's still in the Middle Ages. :BangHead:
     
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    The Catholic Church did not even exist at the time of Acts. It is just another failed attempt by man to come up with another division to help God establish a better church. Isn't God lucky we have done that some 1200+ times since the founding of the church in Acts.
     
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    "Have you ever met a person who thinks that all religions are equally valid? I don't mean someone who thinks there are points of commonality, but who thinks they are equally valid with nothing really right or wrong? There's a whole bunch of 'em."

    Prince Charles is famously quoted as saying that when he becomes King he wishes to say he is defender of faith , and not defender of THE FAITH as monarchs in the past have always said.:tear:
     
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    Sorry, no experience with royalty. They are just another person to me. I wouldnt even know what royalty means by the faith vs faith.

    I do not think that all faiths are valid, starting with the catholic church. That is our problem, not Gods. There was a unified church established in Acts. We created the false doctrine and divisions.
     
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    If the pope is able to change what catholicism believes and teaches, and the people believe their pope because he is Christs stead on earth and infallible, then whose to say the popes don't start making changes that lead to being more and more similar with Islam until theres no real compromise between the two to join together.
     
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