The Presidents inauguration

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Brandon Tallman, Jan 20, 2005.

  1. Brandon Tallman

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    I was compleltey disappionted with the Episcopalian ministers, vague ,generic,and multiencompassing prayer.He failed to the most important thing our Lord taught us to do when praying.Wich is to lift up our prayers in Jesuses Holy name.However, Kirby Cobwell lifted up a fiery and beautiful word that did what anybody serving our Lord is to do,wich is to bring honor and glory to God.
     
  2. chipsgirl

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    Glad I missed the whole thing. Doesn't sound to grand.
     
  3. Dr. Bob

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    It was a fantastic program, music honoring God and country, speech by Bush was the best ever and the prayer by the Houston minister rocked!

    Two thumbs up [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Dr. Bob,

    Even the part where he made the Koran equal to Scripture
     
  5. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Sure. He's a Republican.
     
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    Don't believe he said that.

    What he said was, "That edifice of character is built in families, supported by communities with standards, and sustained in our national life by the truths of Sinai, the Sermon on the Mount, the words of the Koran, and the varied faiths of our people."

    Tell me how that sentence in any way equates the Koran to the Bible. It is merely a mirror that reflects correctly the multi-ethnic and varied religious climate that exists in our country.
     
  7. just-want-peace

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    Hardsheller sez:
    Immaterial point!!! It's another opportunity to berate Bush
    ("My mind is made up; don't confuse me with facts!")
     
  8. KenH

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    Yep. He said the "words" of the Koran, not the "truths" of the Koran.
     
  9. Marcia

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    Don't believe he said that.

    What he said was, "That edifice of character is built in families, supported by communities with standards, and sustained in our national life by the truths of Sinai, the Sermon on the Mount, the words of the Koran, and the varied faiths of our people."

    Tell me how that sentence in any way equates the Koran to the Bible. It is merely a mirror that reflects correctly the multi-ethnic and varied religious climate that exists in our country.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I just read through his speech today and was disappointed to see this.

    He is referrring to "the truths" of the Koran. The word "truths" is being modified by
    1. "of Sinai"
    2. "the Sermon on the Mount"
    3. "the words of the Koran"
    4. "the varied faiths of our people"

    He is saying that "the edifice of character" is sustained by the truths of the 4 things listed above.

    That is clearly equating the 4 things listed as being of equal worth in the area of character. Naturally, I strongly disagree.

    But this is not surprising as Bush as said Islam is a religion of peace and he has referred to the Koran as being a revelation from God:
    At the same link, Bush makes other statements about Islam, such as
     
  10. Pennsylvania Jim

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Well...uh...you don't like Hillary Clinton...uh...nobody's perfect...uh...we're all sinners...uh...Kerry would have been worse...uh...uh...there's nothing anyone can do about abortion...uh...uh...Clinton caused the deficit...uh...uh...it's the Democrats' fault Bush is spending like a drunken sailor...uh....uh...he claims to be a Christian, whoare you...uh...uh...the government has been ignoring the Constitution anyway...uh...uh...do you want another 9/11?...uh...Hillary...hillary...Hillary...uh...
     
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    PJ, do you want a name of a stuttering specialist?

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    What I find interesting is that this a place for Christians to share ideas, beliefs and opinions keeping a Christline attitude. I'm sorry but I did not find Jesus with the same attacking, sarcastice, prideful attitudes that I find here. If you don't like Bush, fine. The Bible makesa it very clear that we are to respect his authority; it also says that we should love our neighbor as ourself. I doubt that we would demean ourselves with such tasteless attitudes, why do we demean others?
     
  13. Pennsylvania Jim

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    What I find interesting is that apparently you only find fault with those who are critical of the President's policies.
     
  14. just-want-peace

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    Pennsylvania Jim sez:
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    'Pears to me that somebody ain't reading before posting!!!

    (The old "shoe fits" anology, me thinks!)
     
  15. Hardsheller

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    Sigh. Everybody hears what they want to hear regardless of the facts.
     
  16. chandler

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    I don't mind if anyone criticizes his policies. In fact, I do not agree with every policy he has stated. You take it far beyond that;just be a man and admit it! You remind of one of somoene who just sits out in the pew and criticizes EVERYTHING the preacher says and does. Pretty easy to criticize when you are not in that position, huh. You know I think you should run for office next time; I mean you do have all the answers, right?
     
  17. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Oh, now I'm not "being a man". Like I said, it looks like your criticism is pretty politically motivated, and perhaps you need a mirror.

    If you had a preacher who was not faithful to the essentials of the faith, would you remain silent?

    I don't criticize everything Bush does. Just things like:

    1. Wild, out-of-control spending on social programs, adding MASSIVE debt to a fiscal situation already strained by his overseas adventures.

    2. Push for amnesty for illegal immigrants, as well as practically unrestrained immigration, unheard of in other nations.

    3. Repeated political actions that advance the homosexual agenda.

    4. Support for Abortion Specter in the GOP primary, against a pro-life candidate, giving him the critical boost in a close election.

    5. INCREASING federal subsidies to Planned Parenthood to record levels.

    6. Working with Ted Kennedy to make record strides in the federalization of education, with associated massive spending and measures that cost local school districts millions, and remove local control.

    7. Socializing medicine through the medicare bill, which is forecasted to cost hundreds of billions of dollars. Hillary was unable to do this, since "conservatives" opposed her...but not Bush.

    8. Praising Islam as a great religion, and stating that it is a way to God apart from Jesus Christ.


    See? It's just a few little points that bother me.
     
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    Nobodies perfect.
     
  19. Marcia

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    I said nothing sarcastic. I was pointing out something he said in his inauguration speech that is very disturbing. I also posted two quotes from what he has said in the past about Islam.

    There is nothing unbiblical about that.
     

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