The Real Truth about Canadian Health Care

From each according to his abilities? To each according to his needs?

There is a word to describe that system.

Do you know what it is?

 

I worked in Finland for awhile and received some medication that was not available in the U.S. In fact the doctor told it the medication I was taking was not near as good as he prescribed me. As a foreigner I paid a small price for the medication. Six months later it was available in the U.S and I paid 4 times the price I paid in Finland for the same medication.

In the U.S. medications are sold to make a profit. If enough is not sold they stop making it even if it is the most effective for a particular disease.

When I was in Finland I saw people that did not have the same kind of problems as those in America. There was a lot more preventative medicine.

In the U.S. elderly folks have socialized medicine in the form of medicare. In the U.S. welfare recipients and poor people have better health care than the average working person. In the U.S. most of the only people who do not health care is the working person working for a small company that does not have benefits. The largest industry in America is the construction industry. Many of those building homes do not have benefits.

 

"I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." --Thomas Jefferson

 

Isn't that kind of like calling the veterinarian when your cow is nearly dead.

 

That's not a lawful use of tax dollars. St. Paul said that one who is paid out of the public largess is to bear the sword to execute vengeance upon the evildoer, and to praise* those who do good.

Civil government is about punishing or praising human behavior. Not about redistributing wealth.

Everyone equally benefits from the just administration of law enforcement and national defense. Not so with any other kind of welfare.

Robin Hood liberated his land from a usurper who oppressed the poor. "Rob from the rich to give to the poor" is

Spare me the hypocrisy. Not once did our Lord take another man's riches to help the poor.

*Not to be read as "rewarding"

 

Our government does a poor job separating the needy from the lazy. Charity should be singular. And nowhere in scripture does it say taking other people's money to feed the poor is the Christian way.

You seem awfully judgmental. You have no idea what Aaron, or anyone else gives of themselves. Pharisees liked to judge other's giving. Jesus had some stern words for them folks.

 

So where was his twisting of scripture?

No you placed that in the context of Christ taking form one to give to another.

Based on what? You did not find that in scripture.

No that is your excuse he made no such statement nor did he say anything to give any indication of your false accusation of him. What conservatives have malice for is the method by which libbies choose to address the issue and the fact that libbies use the poor as a tool to further an agenda they would want even without them.

The mentally ill that are in need of support are so few it cannot justify changing an entire system.

Conservative like Aaron want to do the same and dodo the same. Opposing government welfare does not equal hating the poor. That is an intellectually dishonest argument. As has been proven on this board multiple times, conservatives out give libbies from their personal funds by a broad margin.

 

You took his statement out of context.

The mentally ill that are in need of support are too few to justify restructuring our entire national health care system.

We simply need to create a progam to serve the mentally ill that are not adequately served under our current system without disrupting the system for everyone else.

 

In ten years, once all the kinks are worked out, everyone will find it funny how they feared universal health insurance, and none of us would want to go back. Except maybe the insurance company executives.

 

The problem is that the system did change. It dumped then on the street years ago. Now they end up in jails and prisons.

 

And you got this straight out of a Dr. Seuss book.

 

Fine, let's create a progam that meets their needs without disrupting everyone else's health care.

 

That was not my experience in Finland. I was able to see the doctor by making an appointment in just a few days. As a foreigner my medication was 25% of what it cost me in the U.S. There they have both private and public medical care.

For me to see a dentist here it often takes an appointment at least 6 months ahead.

 

When I pastored my health insurance cost me over 3 times what it did when I changed states and went back to me prior vocation of being self employed.

 

There is a false theory that the homeless are all mentally ill. Could not be further from the truth.

 

I have never heard that. Where did you come up with such a thing?

 

Well, since you mentioned it . . .


The know it all Grinch lived down Floridy way,
But he had a cold heart, yes I'm sorry to say.
He'd gripe and he'd groan, and he'd fuss, and he'd gritch.
“I've got mine, tough for you, but just call me Mitch”.


You see, this ole Grinch liked to live in the past,
And no changes he liked, he stood firm and stood fast.
He didn't want progress, he thought it a dud,
Let's just say this ole Grinch was a stick in the mud.


“Things are just fine, I like them this way”,
The Grinch we call Mitch was oft heard to say.
Even if something could be better for all,
The Grinch threw a fit, as he'd cry and he'd bawl.


“I like everything to stay just the same!”
That is his mantra, yes albeit lame.
“Things are so good, they're lovely and rosy,
I don't like Barack, Harry Reid or Pelosi.”


“Things were so good back in 1802,
People back then really knew what to do.
They didn't need health care to keep them alive.
And they lived to the ripe age of forty and five!”


But the world had moved on, progress came anyway,
It took quite a while, but now is the day.
The Whos down in Whoville despite the ole Grinch,
All got coverage they needed, but it wasn't a cinch.


And it came to pass that after some years,
The righties realized they had misplaced their fears.
They loved having no pre-existing denial,
“Those libbies were right! Our hatred was vile.”


“It worked! The Change worked!” the Grinch finally said,
“Would not have believed it. But that's what I said.”
He went on and said, “Tell your pappa and mamma,
In two-thousand-twelve, you must VOTE FOR OBAMA!”