The richard Lattimore N.T. Translation

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    Lattimore,who was a Greek scholar died in 1984. He was a classical Greek authority on Homer and others. From the dust jacket it says he had no pretensions about being a Bible scholar. "Lattimore's aim was to provide a simple,literal redering in which the syntax and order of the Greek dictate the character of the English Bible."

    He followed the Westcott and Hort text. He also did not use chapter and verse divisions.

    Here are some snips from Mark in comparison with the NIV.

    1:45
    NIV : stayed outside in lonely places
    LT : remain outside in unfrequented places

    2:12
    N : praised God,saying,We have never seen anyting like this!
    L : glorified God,saying :We have never seen the like

    2:17
    N : I have not come to call the righteous,but sinners
    L : I did not come to summon the just,but the sinners

    2:21
    N : a patch of unshrunk cloth
    L : a patch of unfulled cloth

    7:22
    N : adultery,greed,malice,lewdness,envy,slander,arrogance and folly
    L : adulteries,greedy dealings,vices,trickery,laxity,the vicious eye,blasphemy,pride,wildness

    7:35
    N : his tongue was loosened
    L : the binding of his tongue was dissolved

    To be continued. I'm feeling a bit weak.
     
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    The Book of Mark : NIV/Lattimore

    9:12
    N : be rejected
    L : be set at nought

    9:17
    N : a spirit that has robbed him of speech
    L : a speechless spirit

    9:42
    N : to stumble
    L : misleads

    9:43
    N : causes you to stumble
    L : makes you go amiss

    10:45
    N : as a ransom for many
    L : for the redeption of many

    11:23
    N : does not doubt in their heart
    L : does not deliberate in his heart

    12:24
    N : Are you not in error
    L : Is this not why you go astray

    12:34
    N : saw that he had answered wisely
    L : perceiving that he had answered intelligently

    12:39
    N : the places of honor at banquets
    L : the foremost couches at the dinners

    12:44
    N : They all gave out of their wealth;but sh,out of her poverty,put in everything --all she had to live on
    L : For they all put in out of their surplus,but out of her deficit she gave all that she had,her whole livelihood
     
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    The Book of Mark : NIV/Lattimore

    13:10
    N : do not worry beforehand about what to sy
    L : do not take any forethought for what you will say

    14:1
    N : scheming to arrest Jesus secretly and kill him
    L : were looking for a way to capture him by treachery and kill him

    14:6
    N : Why are you bothering her? she has done a beautiful thing to me.
    L Why are you hard on her? She has done a good thing for me.

    14:27
    N : You will all fall away
    L : You will all be made to fail me

    14:38
    N : The spirit is willing
    L : The spirit is eager

    14:47
    N : Then one of those standing near
    L : But one of his supporters

    14:65
    N : the guards
    L : the servingmen
     
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    The Book of Mark : NIV/Lattimore

    15:7
    N : insurrectionists
    L : insurgents

    15:8
    N : what he usually did
    L : according to his custom

    15:10
    N : knowing it was out of self-interest
    L : for he perceived...for spite

    15:32
    N : heaped insults on him
    L : spoke abusively to him

    16:5
    N : they were alarmed
    L : startled into amazement
     
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    The Book Of Mark In : NIV/Lattimore

    Oops...I forgot to include a bunch more!

    3:3
    N : Stand up in front of everyone
    L : Come out into our midst

    4;19
    N : the deceitfulness of wealth
    L : the beguilement of riches

    4:32
    N : the largest of all garden plants
    L : greater than all the other greens

    4;41
    N : terrified
    L : seized with great fear

    5:36
    N : Overhearing what they said,Jesus told him,Don't be afraid;just believe.
    L : Jesus disregarded the talk that was going on...Have no fear,only have faith.

    5:41
    N : I say to you,Get up!
    L : I say to you : Awake

    6;5
    N : He could not do any miracles there.
    L : And he could not exercise any power there.

    6:6
    N : went around
    L : circulated

    6:51
    N : they were completely amazed
    L : they were still all too much disturbed

    7:10
    N : Honor your father and mother.
    L : Give due regard to your father and mother.
     
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    Hey Rip, I read Lattimore's NT earlier this year.
     
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    Good to hear that Franklin.
     
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    Ephesians NIV/Lattimore

    1:5
    N : predestined us for adoption
    L : preordaining us for adoption

    1:10
    N : to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ
    L : that everything in heaven and on earth should be summed up in the Christ

    1:14
    N : who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession --to the praise of his glory
    L : This is the first installment of our inheritance,for our redeption as his property,and the praise of his glory

    3:6
    N : through the gospel the gentiles are heirs together with Israel,members together of one body,and sharers together of one body,and sharers together in the promise of Christ Jesus
    L : the Gentiles are co-heirs,incorporate,fellow sharers in the promise by Jesus Christ through his gospel

    3:8
    N : the boundless riches of Christ
    L : the incalculable bounty of the Christ

    3:10
    N : manifold wisdom of God
    L : the intricate wisdom of God

    3:12
    N : In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence
    L : in whom we have our confidence and access in trust because of our faith in him

    3:20
    N : Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine
    L : To him who can bring to pass all things far beyond what we ask or think
     
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    Ephesians : NIV/Lattimore

    4:18
    N : the hardening of their hearts
    L : the impenetrability of their hearts


    4:19
    N : Having lost all sensitivity,they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity,and they are full of greed.
    L : In their insensibility they have given themselves up to debauchery for the practice of every kind of vice,insatiably.

    5:4
    N : Nor should there be obsenity,foolish talk or coarse joking,which are out of place.
    avoid also indecent silly facile talk,which is unbecoming

    5;9
    N : for the fruit of the light
    L : for what issues from light

    5:11
    N : the fruitless deeds of darkness
    L : the barren works of darkness

    5:21
    N : submit to one another
    L : subordinating yourselves to each other

    5:33
    N : the wife must respect her husband
    L : the wife should be in awe of her husband

    6:4
    N : do not exasperate your children
    L : do not try your children's patience

    6:24
    N : Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love.
    L : Grace be with all who love our Lord Jesus Christ in his immortality.
     
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    Kinda tough to give the references, eh? (my Lattimore has no versification)

    Here is one very literal rendering (transliteration, actually) of Lattimore's that struck me (Galatians 6:17) --
    Henceforth, let no one give me trouble, for I carry the stigmata of Jesus on my body.
    Here is the TR Greek of the verse --
    Τοῦ λοιποῦ κόπους μοι μηδεὶς παρεχέτω ἐγὼ γὰρ τὰ στίγματα τοῦ Κυριοῦ Ἰησοῦ ἐν τῷ σώματί μου βαστάζω
    This is the one and only time this plural of stigma (Strong's #6742) is used in the NT --
    a mark pricked in or branded upon the body. To ancient oriental usage, slaves and soldiers bore the name or the stamp of their master or commander branded or pricked (cut) into their bodies to indicate what master or general they belonged to, and there were even some devotee's who stamped themselves in this way with the token of their gods
    The word come to us through the Middle English stigme, brand; and that from Latin stigma, stigmat-, tattoo indicating slave or criminal status; and that from Greek, tattoo mark, from stizein, stig-, to prick.

    Despite RC mysticism, I found "stigmata" much more poignant than merely "marks".
     
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