The Right Argument On Taxation

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  1. poncho

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    My last two columns dealt with the reality of the income tax and traps to replace it called flat tax, fair tax or value added tax. They are just distractions and the wrong discussion. The real issue is the size of government. So few Americans today know that prior to 1913, we didn't have an income tax to feed the central bank (FED); the first 1040 was issued in 1913. How certain the traitors were at the time that everything would go as planned. There's no question the events of 1913 were carefully planned and executed: The Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution were clearly never ratified by the required number of states; fraud was committed when they were announced ratified. The Federal Reserve Act was passed the same year. A central bank needs a mechanism to syphon off the wealth of the people (a direct personal income tax, the second plank of the communist manifesto) and the states needed to be deprived of their representation in Washington, DC., in order for the long planned world government to proceed step-by-step, one fraud at a time.

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    The working man and woman is drowning, millions know the federal income tax does NOT apply to domestic Americans. Out of desperation, ideas are born for replacements to stop this draining of America's lifeblood: a fair tax, flat tax, value added tax - anything help us!!! These distractions are designed to keep the American people busy promoting their own destruction; it's called the herding technique.

    These alternative taxing schemes are just that and will not solve the problem of the Federal Reserve and a fiat currency. These schemes will continue to feed the banking cartel - which is why this poison is being peddled to desperate Americans. Without the Federal Reserve Banking System, these crooks and liars in Congress would not be able to continue spending BILLIONS of "dollars" everyday when there's no money in the people's treasury.

    Full Article.

    "Now git along little doggie git along git along little doggie git along"

     
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  2. billwald

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    The real issue is the size of the country. 350 million people in one political unit can't be efficiently governed, neither can a piece of real estate 3000 miles by 2000 miles.
     
  3. Salty

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    So are you saying its time for the CSA to re-organize
    If so, I would definitely move down South!
     
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    I would move north. Maybe we could just exchange houses, although you would probably get the short end of the stick. :laugh:
     
  5. Aaron

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    The real issue is the size of the federal government.
     
  6. Johnv

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    I agree with Aaron. The biggest issue is not the size of the country (although that's a factor), the biggest issue is the size of the federal government.

    As for the comments about a federal bank being socialist, it's noteworthy that the founding fathers argued that debate intently. George Washington highly favored a national bank, while Jefferson opposed it.
     
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    >So are you saying its time for the CSA to re-organize

    YES

    >If so, I would definitely move down South!

    Can't tolerate hot weather. My hands break out with water blisters and the skin peels off.

    Been thinking about the problem for years. I can't think of a practical procedure for either tossing the Constitution or greatly reducing the size of the federal govt. The devil is in the details.
     
  8. Salty

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    I wouldnt be too sure

    Salty from the land of all kinds of new taxes :BangHead:
     
  9. poncho

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    You can stay down here with me if you don't mind sharing a room with brown recluse spiders Salty. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Welcome. I always knew that the "South shall Rise Again."
     
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    And now we have "Cap and Trade" a tax on thin air.

    HankD
     
  12. Salty

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    Thanks for the invite.
    I spent 15 years in Army and a lot of that time was sleeping out in the field. so I am used to any thing. :thumbsup:
     
  13. poncho

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    That's cool but bring your own tweezers for tick pickin cuz their in short supply (tweezers, not ticks) around here. :laugh:
     
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    I would start reducing the size of the Federal government by eliminating the pension plan for all members of Congress. If that did not automatically impose term limits I would amend the Constitution to do so. A first step but an essential one.

    Next the state governments should reinstate their Constitutional sovereignty and tell Congress and the Supreme Court where to shove their unconstitutional mandates.

    Next call a Constitutional Convention [With very strict limitations.] to:
    1. Eliminate the Federal income tax.
    2. Restore state and local governments to the status they had before the Supreme Court one man one vote ruling.

    That is a start!
     
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    :thumbsup::applause::1_grouphug:
     
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    Not legally or pragmatically possible to limit the agenda on a constitutional convention.
     

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