The Theology of President Bush

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    The Theology of President Bush
    by J. Daniel Janzen
    with J. Gerald Janzen

    It's a delicate matter to talk about another person's faith. But when that faith serves as a central tenet of that person's job, and that job is to lead the American people and the free world, inquiry becomes not only appropriate, but essential.

    The faith of President George W. Bush has drawn much attention from supporters, critics and columnists, particularly as the election draws near. For those concerned about the separation of church and state, having a born-again Christian in the White House can be a source of anxiety; but in truth, almost every American president has been a practicing Christian, including those who have fought hardest to maintain this separation. Strong religious belief can provide a moral and ethical foundation for a leader's work. The belief in a higher power can keep earthly rulers humble; in seeking divine guidance, they acknowledge that they themselves are fallible and don't have all the answers. That's the theory, anyway.

    The outlines of president's conversion story are well-known: Never one to turn down a drink, by the early 70s he was getting increasingly sloppy. Following a particularly embarrassing incident, his family staged an intervention at Kennebunkport starring none other than Billy Graham. On a long walk with the legendary preacher, Bush kicked the bottle and accepted Jesus. Soon afterwards, he rose from failed wildcatter to baseball owner to governor to president of the United States. It's safe to say Christianity has worked out well for W. But what kind of Christianity?

    The president has spoken of his wish to act as a messenger of God's will, and of his conviction that God wants him to be president. In times of crisis, he turns to prayer in lieu of policy analysis. Still, for all his biblical language and professions of faith, Bush doesn't speak much about his specific beliefs. His church attendance is said to be spotty (though in fairness, his regular presence could present logistical nightmares for a parish). Some have speculated that Bush's Christianity is a ploy to appeal to the religious right, while others accuse him of speaking in code to the faithful, making calculated biblical allusions undetectable to the unsaved. But faith is like the death penalty: an unjust condemnation would be too deplorable an error to risk.

    Instead, we should take Bush at his word, and see what we can learn about the faith he professes and how it informs his worldview.

    Many critiques of Bush's Christianity have played on the apparent disparity between his profession of the importance of good works and comforting the afflicted, and his reluctance to back his faith with policy when it comes to such people as uninsured workers, disenfranchised blacks or those affected by industrial pollution. While the quality and quantity of Bush's good works might be questioned, as could be said of any president, his faith-based initiatives are squarely in the spirit of Matthew 5:16: "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven." Whether Bush is a hypocrite or merely a selective and inept do-gooder is a matter of perspective, but in no sense is he a blasphemer — not on this point, anyway.

    A more significant and troubling line of inquiry lies in the way Bush recruits scriptural support for America's role in the world. In his inaugural address on January 20, 2001, Bush quoted a letter that a Virginia statesman named John Page had written to Thomas Jefferson following the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Page wrote, "We know the race is not to the swift nor the battle to the strong. Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?" For Bush, this pairing of Ecclesiastes 9:11 with Nahum 1:3 spoke of our nation's courage; ever the underdogs, we nonetheless prevail over evil by the grace of God, who rides with us in the vanguard of righteousness (no terrestrial grand alliances needed). If he felt this way even before Sept. 11 of that year, imagine how he sees things now.

    Complete Article:

    http://flakmag.com/opinion/shredder18.html
     
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    Oh, I think we should take a look at the conclusion of the writer of the article:

    "...Since assuming the presidency, Bush has shown imperialistic hubris to rival ancient Rome, a steadfast aversion to reflection, an utter lack of humility, a preternatural inability to admit fault and an unfailing presumption that God will back him up in any decision his gut tells him to make. He would do well to ask himself whether he is truly serving One greater than himself, or expecting that One to serve him. It makes a difference."

    Bush is a Methodist, a mainline denomination attended by people such as Democrats Hillary Clinton.

    The so-called inability to admit fault is a failed ploy of the White House Press Corps to trick Bush into confessing his faults to them. They have found a thousand faults and then add that he does admit any faults to make the total that they have found one thousand one. It is too much psychology for the sane to endure this petty charge.

    Nor can the press really honestly say that Bush thinks God will back him up in whatever he does. That is a silly charge that Bush is madman who thinks that he commands God or that God serves the US President. If that is the best that the left can do to critize mainline Protestantism, then we can conclude that modernism and modernists have once again gone to schoolclass without doing their homework.

    I think that the best explanation of Bush's Christian faith is that he is truly an average Christian.

    It is the modernists who cannot cope with the fact that God would allow an average Christian to be President of the USA in spite of the modernists' opposition to such a notion.
     
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    I am not at all sure that Presidnet Bush has a Theology...

    I think he has a very basic knowledge of Christ and attends church...

    But, that's about it...

    As stated above a very average Christian...

    No more... No less...

    I wish he were more "connected" to the Word then, maybe, he wouldn't make so many apparent compromises...

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    That is a very interesting tactic that liberals have happened upon.

    Throw a million and one false accusations at someone... and when they refuse to admit that their guilty of any of them... accuse him of being too proud to admit fault.

    People without sound arguments have used similar tactics here. They stand up straw men fashioned according to what they claim you believe... then accuse you of lying when you deny them.
     
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    I'm not a "liberal" and will not accuse anyone of lying because of their opinion. This I promise.

    I do however, feel that mixing church and state
    like bush has done will only corrupt the church
    and use christians as a political tool turning
    them into money changers.

    There will be no salvation. Only judgement and
    tyranny-something we escaped to find America.
     
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    Poor Bush barely has a theology. To say that he is leading us into some sort of theocracy because now and then he mumbles something or other about his vague spiritual desires like a Methodist such as Hillary Clinton does when she says that Jesus cares for illegals (not her exact words) is to thrust some sort of theology onto someone who has very little knowledge of doctrine. The left can get away with these statements because most leftists could not state standard Christian doctrine under any circumstances. My advicd to the left is to avoid the Methodist Church if they are scared of going to heaven.
     
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    Bush has no grand evil designs. He's not evil. He's venial. He's morally weak, and generally takes the path of least resistance.

    He has a history of blaming others for his trouble, and of lying about things that are embarassing or troublesome for him.

    His record has no serious felonies, just a string of misdemeanors. Contrary to some, I don't think his behavior with regard to lying about Iraq or spying on American citizens merits impeachment.

    He's weak, not evil.
     
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    His theology is irellevant as he was elected president, and not pastor.

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    The left is silly to charge Bush with even knowing one sentence of systematic theology or to even be able to recite the basic doctrines of the Nicene Creed. The only ones who know less theology than the Bush family are the ones who have made these silly charges that the Bush family has a theology of any kind.

    The left must be very rich in order to squander time and money on this imaginary issue. Of course, the left is probably just expressing their historic hatred of Christians and all things that even seem Christian. The left is full of hatreds for anything and everything that they do not control. If the left had their way, they would burn every church down in the United States and burn every copy of The Holy Bible in the world.
     
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    When bush's Chief of Staff Andy Card resigned
    two days ago, the president uttered a bible
    passage from Ecclesiastes. Bush spoke this verse
    so fast, I didn't understand which verse he
    was citing on CNN.

    I did a search and found this article. To be a
    christian is wonderful and I would never put
    anyone down because of it. I will take offense
    at any person that uses God to cover-up theft
    and deciet using Him for political power.
     
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    No one in the entire world feels the attacks of satan like this man does. Fellow Christians call him a "average Christian" ... "morally corrupt"? I personally don't like George Bush, but I would rather Bush over Kerry or Gore or Clinton any day of the week. Does not God place those in Authority above us? Does the bible not say that all authority comes from God? So why do we think we have the right blast this guy for his mistakes?

    By the way ... there is no such thing as an average Christian. We are all one body!
     
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    The meaning that I intended was that Bush had no more training or knowledge or intentions into theology than the average Christian. I see nothing wrong with that term and consider it more polite than pew warmer, for example. Christianity is made up of common people according to the New Testament and Paul.
     
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    "Does not God place those in Authority above us?"

    It is my opinion that God meant above us as in the
    sky. God had nothing to do with bush becoming
    president or the election of other corrupt politicians.

    This statement can be used by communists to validate their position of authority as well
    and why government must stay away from the
    church.
     
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    Some samples of Bush theology in his own words:

    ABC News

    Source

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3770220
     
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    Thank you, Lady Eagle. I really had forgotten how far Bush strays from Christianity in the name of the GOP. Bush's syncretism is a very good example of how silly the left is with the charge that Bush has a systematic theology or clear Christian doctrine and is headed for some sort of theocracy by Methodists.

    Such silliness on the part of the left would not be possible if it were not for their hatred of Christians coupled with their refusal to comprehend basic Christian doctrine.

    Very likely the left is really too lazy to study the issue but uses the cry of theocracy just to get money from their Hollywood friends.

    I really hope that the average Christian does not think that Allah, or Satan, is the same as God. Should I say that Bush is a Sunday School dropout, Lady Eagle?

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    "I really hope that the average Christian does not think that Allah, or Satan, is the same as God."

    In the end times, the average christian will be
    tricked into believing satan is a god or as The Bible puts it-the anti-christ.

    What amazes me is how so many christians still
    walk down this path eventhough The Bible is
    clear on this issue. It seems theology is used
    for political power and money while the real message is lost.

    churchmouse said:

    " I really had forgotten how far Bush strays from Christianity in the name of the GOP."

    You forgot? :eek:
     
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    Yeah, I don't take Bush seriously on religion. I realize that he is a member of the mainline denomination of the Methodist church and that Bush's conversion to Christianity saved him from his alcoholism or his heavy drinking and made him into a decent hard-working citizen who has discharged his responsibilities well.

    However, his syncretism has been such an issue here on the board that I have forgotten about him on the religious question and I was glad that Lady Eagle brought that up about his Ramadan dinners at the White House and other disgusting things that he has done.

    That syncretism really makes a joke out of the left's silly idea that Bush will establish a theocracy. It is hard to establish a theocracy when one does not have a systematic theology of one sentence in length or when one does not know enough doctrine to know that Allah is just another name for Satan.

    I sincerely hope that the next President is an evangelical Protestant who both knows and believes Christian doctrine concerning the birth, death, and resurrection of Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ The Lamb Of God.
     
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    Revelations, chapter 6:

    15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

    In the end, will bush's theology be able to "stand" and why?
     
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    Lomax, you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    You can't say that Bush is trying to establish a theocracy and then question his Christianity.

    All we know about him is that he is a Methodist and that he is confused about basic doctrine and has no systematic theology but the idea that he is trying to take over the government in the name of the Methodist Church is silly.
     
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    "In the end, will bush's theology be able to "stand" and why?"

    I didn't ask if Bush is trying to establish a theocracy or question his Christianity which
    is in dispute anyway.

    Revelations, chapter 6:

    15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

    "In the end, will bush's theology be able to "stand" and why?"
     

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