The Tower In Siloam

Yes, 'For the gifts and the calling of God are not repented of.'


12 Now if their fall, is the riches of the world, and their loss the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
15 For if the casting away of them is the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
23 And they also, if they continue not in their unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. Ro 11

28 There shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God[which is now], and yourselves [Jews] cast forth without. [We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat that serve the tabernacle.]
29 And they [Gentiles] shall come from the east and west, and from the north and south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God [which is now].
30 And behold, there are last [Gentiles] who shall be first [into the kingdom of His dear Son, which is now], and there are first [Jews] who shall be last [into the kingdom of His dear Son, which is now]. Lu 13

I am convinced that the above passages teach that there will be, yet to come, a revival amongst the Jews and a general incoming of Jews to Christ, i.e. the Church, where we the Gentiles are now; NOT some future reinstatement of the Old Covenant or the old sacrificial system of the OT that premillennial dispensationalism, which has morphed into a form of Christian Zionism that is hardly distinguishable from Jewish Zionism, espouses. It's ironic that the first great dangerous heresy and enemy to the early Church, Judaism, is being set on a pedestal within the Church today.

I resent your deceitful tactics; you're doing that 'olegig distortion' again. That's NOT what I implied at all:

2 God did not cast off his people which he foreknew......
11 I say then, Did they stumble that they might fall? God forbid... Ro 11

But it's plain from Lu 13:28, the Jews have been cast out of the kingdom (for the time being). When they are grafted back in with the rest of us, then they will be His chosen people along with the rest of us. They're in no way superior to the Gentiles.

I don't see how that is pertinent to anything I've written. You mite have to splain that one.

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Your question reminds me of Nicodemus. He didn't get it either. A man must be born of the Spirit before he can see or enter into the [spiritual] kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit:

who delivered us out of the power of darkness, and translated us into the kingdom of the Son of his love; Col 1:

for thus shall be richly supplied unto you the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. 2 Pet 1:11

You reference 1 Corinthians 15:50; back up to vv 23-24:

....Christ`s, at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.

At His coming He delivers up His kingdom to the Father. I take it from the context of the chapter to mean that that's when we will all be changed 'in the twinkling of an eye' and go to heaven, i.e., inherit the kingdom of God in the realm of eternity.

It's yet to be seen if I'm goona do that, now ain't it?

And I've replied. Now answer my question:

And seeing a fig tree by the way side, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only; and he saith unto it, Let there be no fruit from thee henceforward for ever. And immediately the fig tree withered away. Mt 21:19

Do you think our Lord is losing his temper at a tree? If not, what's the meaning in this verse?

And, since I've now responded to four in a row from you, answer this also (you don't want me to start calling you 'one way olegig' do you?):

....them that say they are Jews, and they art not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:9

...the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie... Rev 3:9

Do you literalize or spiritualize these? Are these physical Jews or something else?

 

Thank you olegig sir. I very much appreciate and respect your response. Duty has me consumed at the moment, I intend to comment further; you may be surprised at how much, I think, common ground we share and are in agreement!

 

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....because I decided to start a thread on it.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=65141