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The UN and the Great Commission

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JamieinNH, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. JamieinNH

    JamieinNH New Member

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    There is another thread talking about the UN and it's headquarters in NY.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/18/3875.html

    Instead of derailing that thread, I wanted to start a thread related to that with a question I have about such subjects.

    For my question, please base your answers on Bibical stances only, not opinions or "modern day politics"

    Question:

    What does this have to do with us and the Great Commission?

    Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
    Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
    Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.


    I am not trying to "stir" the pot of this debate. I ask because I really would like to know.

    Isn't the Great Commission what we're here for, and if so, then shouldn't we ask how a subject reflects or pertains to the Great Commission?


    Jamie
     
  2. Bunyon

    Bunyon New Member

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    My appologies JamieinNH, but I have no idea what the connection is between what you are asking and what the other thread is talking about. Unless you are thinking that we should somehow utilize the UN in the great commission?????
     
  3. KenH

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    We are to spread the gospel as we go about our lives - at home, at play, at work - including if we work at the United Nations headquarters.
     
  4. JamieinNH

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    Hiya Bunyon,

    I asked only because I didn't know enough about the UN so, I went to Google and found out lot's of information, but some of the information I read actually suggested that the UN was not very "Christian like", and then again some links said they were, and others mentions nothing about Christianity.

    So, I questioned myself and wondered how the UN "fit" into our time Biblically.

    You will find I often ask "silly" questions only because they raise a point with me in my mind, so I thought I would ask this on in the BB.

    I guess you could say it's the new Christian in me, I have lead a dangerous life, danger to my soul that is, and God has given me hope, and so, since then I have started to question most things in how it relates Biblically.

    Things that were in my life before, and now new things, like the UN. [​IMG]

    So, it was just a question I asked myself, and asked out loud. The question really has nothing to do with the previous thread other than that was what got me thinking of the question to start with. That is why I started a new thread because I didn't want to derail that one.

    Jamie
     
  5. JamieinNH

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    Hiya Ken,

    I do understand that and agree with you, but how does where the UN headquarters is fit into the scheme of things?

    What I mean is, looking at it from a Biblically stand point, what does it matter where the UN is?

    Jamie
     
  6. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    From a Biblical viewpoint it doesn't matter where the United Nations headquarters is located. It was located in the U.S. in 1945 because we were/are the leader of the free world.
     
  7. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Biblically speaking, The UN has nothing to do whatsoever with the Great Commission, since the UN is not the Church and is not in the business of spreading the Gospel, making disciples, and teaching them to obey all that Christ has commanded us, Baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  8. JamieinNH

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    Hiya Joseph,

    Under the beilf that things/places/people/organizations are either Christian or Not, then we can say that the UN is not?

    Or is that too narrow of a guideline? I know it seems limited, but as a new Christian, I can see the difference in my life now and what it was before. So with me, it seems like either I am or I'm not a Christian.

    I am just wondering if this would apply to Groups, and other things/places like an individual.

    I generaly don't like seeing things either as "black" or "white" but it seems like that IS the way to look at things from a Christian point of view.

    Is that wrong? What are your thoughts?

    Jamie
     
  9. Bunyon

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    In that case, Jamie, I would say that the UN can play no direct role in the great commission. My understanding is that they are very anti-christian. But of course indvidual christians can contribute to the great commission no matter where they are, even at the UN.
     
  10. StraightAndNarrow

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    No human institution, including the U.S. government, has anything to do with the Great Commission. It's up to individuals and Christ's Church.
     
  11. Johnv

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    Nothing. And it need not. In our haste to "christianize" everything, we forget that sometimes we simply need to let what is God's be God's and what is Ceasar's be Ceasar's.

    I don't require anyone to impliment the Great Commission except for the guy I see in the mirror every morning.

    So I guess that means it's me and the glass manufacturer [​IMG]
     
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