Theological Question Regarding Government

Isaiah says this;
Isaiah 1:23-31
23Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
24Therefore saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
25And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:
26And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.
27Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.
28And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the LORD shall be consumed.
29For they shall be ashamed of the oaks which ye have desired, and ye shall be confounded for the gardens that ye have chosen.
30For ye shall be as an oak whose leaf fadeth, and as a garden that hath no water.
31And the strong shall be as tow, and the maker of it as a spark, and they shall both burn together, and none shall quench them.

 

Again Isaiah;

Isaiah 10:1-4
1Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;
2To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!
3And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?
4Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

 

What educaton and training are you thinking of? We already have a public school system and just about anyone can go to college. I got my degree while working.

Actually health insurance isn't that expensive. Single male aged 26 - Blue Cross costs $35 a month.

 

The government does have a roll to play here. We just need to be sure those we help are truly unable to help themselves.

 

I'm wondring why someone making $7 or $8 dollars an hour would get married to begin with. A man has an obligation to provide for his wife and children. If he doesn't have employment sufficient to do so before marrying perhaps it would be better to put it off until he is able to do so.

 

I am all for programs that make them productive and are not opened ended. As long as the funds go toward free market business like public colleges of their choice to include religious and daycares not set up or run by the government.

 

Because sometimes marriage is not controlled by a pay rate. Sometimes, one did have a good job, and lost it because it was shipped overseas. I dont think he would get a divorce because he now has an $8 an hour job.

 

We basically live in the same cost of living type place. I believe the other poster lives in Michigan, which is a totally different world.

 

Yes, I live in Michigan. And it is a totally different world. We have been living in a one State recession for a couple of years now. I believe that we lead the nation in unemployment.

But my image of a Christian man is someone who goes out and works - no matter how hard or demeaning the work - no matter how long the hours - and provides for his family.

The problem that I see where I live is a union mentality that prevents people from looking ahead and thinking about getting retraining before their job is outsourced.

I have relatives that work in union jobs - and they seem to think that demanding something is enough. The idea of personal responsiblity for their station in life seems to be totally foreign to them.

 

By the way, my neighbor is a Baptist pastor - well sort of - when he accepted the job the first thing that he did was take the word "Baptist" out of the church name.

Anyway, he apparently does not make enough to support his family as a pastor. His wife works long hours as a nurse and then works more hours as a voluteer at the church. The pastor on the other hand spends a lot of time at home (presumedly preparing sermons?) and does not take other part time employment.

It would seem to me that he would present a better public picture as a Christian - let alone as a pastor - if he were willing to really work hard to support his family. After all couldn't he compose beautiful sermons in his mind while mopping floors somewhere at night?

 

All this being very true still is not compelling for government intervention.

 

I see.:thumbs: :1_grouphug:

 

A good argument for socialized health care, which I support wholeheartedly!