This is a sure fire winner...but the democrats are too stupid to figure it out

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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Bush is playing word games with Amnesty. If the Democrats would come out against it and do something substantive, his poll numbers would go down to single digits, and the Democrats would win both the House and Senate and the presidency in 08. But, so far, they are too stupid to figure this out. Instead of capitalizing on his bone headedness, they are still whining like a bunch of sore loser cry babies about the 04 election. So, even though Bush is less and less appealing as a president, the Democrats show once again that they are even less appealing because they have nothing positive to offer.

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    Yeah, the democrats are stupid but the only thing more stupid are the republicans in many cases. Like the ones that keep voting republican and can't figure out why they never get anywhere and why we are still killing babies after have a repub in the white house for 6 years.
     
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    We are making progess on the Supreme Court and in the war on terror. The only thing more stupid than Democrats and Republicans are the isolationists in the Constitution party who think we can continue non-interventionism, which goes contrary to Biblical teachings of the Good Samaritan and the historical realities of WW2, and still wonder why the Muslim extremists attack us...much like, I am sure, the Canadians are probably asking themselves today.

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    I personally stay away from parties. I prefer independant. I liked the CP but there were people in the CP that wouldn't vote for Roy Moore just because he was still in the RP.

    Sad. Also sad is that the CP is having major trouble now with some state parties pulling out.
     
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    Where do the Biblical teachings of the Good Samaritan say that carrying out false flag terror campaigns against other sovereign nations while attempting to overthrow their democratically elected governments are morally acceptable to use as a device to help our neighbors? Not to mention all the times the word interventionism has been used as a politically correct euphemism for corporate colonialism.

    That's what interventionism is, not some kind of grand holy policy to help our neighbors, it's just another PC cover story to protect the schemes dreamed up by the corporate elite to help themselves to what doesn't belong to them.

    From the blogs I've been reading today, alot of Canadians seem to be asking themselves things like...

    And,

     
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    If this is your biblical interpretation of the parable of the Good Samaritan, then you need to look more closely at the Scriptures. This parable has absolutely nothing to do with American isolationism.
     
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    You mean President Bush is NOT the president of the world?

    The US troops are the ones terrorizing in the middle east!
     
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    The democrats cannot criticize Bush’s plan for amnesty because they want amnesty and more. They are out there recruiting illegals to vote (Francine Busby).

    I will tell you what I would like to see. Law enforcement and immigration officials at every polling place. Any attempted voter fraud should be a felony. Felons and illegals do not have the right to vote.
     
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    "Felons and illegals do not have the right to vote."

    Felons can vote in North Carolina once they are released from prison and are no longer on parole or probation.

    All the ones wanting to change the constitution...how about changing it for something that really effects people? Make it where your parents have to be citizens or here as legal immigrants before citizenship is bestowed upon you just because you're born on US soil.
     
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    Terry,

    If you mean that its original message was not directly focused on American isolationism, then you are correct. The point of the parable, however, is a direct condemnation of isolationism in general.

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    How so Joseph? I see a man helping his fellow man in this parable, which is good and shows he has compassion. I don't see a man getting himself tangled up in the affairs of another or choosing to side with one man over another or supporting this man's cause over another man's cause. He didn't give the injured stranger a weapon or even aid money to buy one to defend himself against another attack, he simply took the time to show compassion to his fellow man and made sure he was well cared for while he was unable to care for himself and then went about minding his own business. No more no less, as we all should do.
     
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    I guess you didn't notice the Jewish isolationists who reasoned that it was an internal conflict that was none of their business and crossed to the other side of the road. This is the same reasoning that isolationists used in WW2 and still use today. It is sinful and immoral.

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    Joseph, your interpretation of the Good Samaritan story has just blown my mind.
     
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    Jewish isolationists? Internal conflict?

    What internal conflict? The man was beaten and robbed, and stripped of clothing, and half dead probably unconscious. There's no mention of the two men speaking to each other. He's unidentifiable, he could be anyone from any race or any faction. How does the Priest and Levite "reason" his injury was caused by internal conflict if they couldn't even tell who or what he was?

    Why did he pass by? He didn't know if the man was a Jew or not or if he was even still alive. He might have been defiled by touching the man. How long did a ritual cleansing take and what was the cost of it? How close could a priest get to a dead man without being defiled? What would he have had to do before he was considered clean again? He would have had to stand at the Eastern gate with the rest of the unclean for awhile wouldn't he?

    I reason that the priest reasoned it was to big of a hassle to go through all that just to look at a man that might already be dead.

    Why did he pass by? Maybe he didn't want to be seen bending over the man and risk being accused of the crime. Who knows?

    So yeah, I guess you're right. I missed the part about the priest and Levite reasoning in their sinful immoral isolationist ways that the man's injury was caused by internal conflict.

    I understand the concept of loving your neighbor as yourself, I think. It isn't a two way street and we shouldn't expect anything in return when showing that love just as the Samaritan didn't.


    The lawyer in Luke 10:25 wanted to know what he had to do inherit eternal life. Jesus then asked him to answer his own question which the lawyer answered correctly in Luke 10:27.

    Jesus replied.
    Jesus was telling the lawyer that it was impossible for him to inherit eternal life on his own without God's grace and that everyone is our neighbor, not who is closet to us or our allies but everyone.

    How does God tell us to treat our neighbors? Love them as you love yourself, and...He tells us how not to treat them.

    You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor Exod 20:13-17

    "or anything else that belongs to your neighbor" does that include resources do you think? Let's go back to Iran 1953, Iran was about to nationalize it's oil industry. How did we "love our neighbors then"?

    We used certain Iranians that posed as Communists to blow things up and blame someone else to topple the democratically elected government to protect the business interests of the elite not to protect U.S. or Brithish citizens. The plan worked so well it's been a big part of "our interventions" ever since.

    How is that loving our neighbor? Did God say we should love one neighbor and not the other? Did He say we should go around overthrowing the government of our neighbors by deceit and violence to satisfy our other neighbors needs or wants or even our own?

    What am I missing now Joseph? How has a policy of violent interventions ever helped our neighbors or even ourselves in the long run?




     
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    I don't know, didn't they use to wear pots and shoes on their heads or something?
     

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