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This Prayer Approved by the White House?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Palatka51, Mar 12, 2009.

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  1. Palatka51

    Palatka51 New Member

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    By R. Albert Mohler, Jr.
    Christian Post Guest Columnist
    Mon, Mar. 02 2009 09:12 AM EST[/URL]

    Is the Obama White House vetting prayers? Dan Gilgoff of U.S. News and World Report reports that this represents a "new tradition" established by the administration of President Barack Obama. As Gilgoff revealed, "In a departure from previous presidents, his public rallies are opening with invocations that have been commissioned and vetted by the White House."

    The issue of public prayer is increasingly controversial in an age of religious diversity and increasing secularization. Yet, prayers at government ceremonies and events have been common since the nation's founding and, until recently, few prayers related to White House events have been controversial. Radical church/state separationists consider these prayers to be improper and perhaps unconstitutional, but this is a hard case to make given the nation's historic practice.

    On the other hand, sign me up as an opponent of any prayer that is vetted by any government official or agency. For reasons having less to do with the Constitution and more to do with the nature of prayer, I cannot imagine that a Christian minister could in good conscience allow the government to edit or approve a prayer.
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    #1 Palatka51, Mar 12, 2009
  2. preachinjesus

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    It's a new administration. They have new guidelines they feel are appropriate.

    I don't see the issue. The state isn't the Church and vice versa.

    I really think we need a moratorium on all evangelical engagement in politics and media engagement for 180 days. We've sold our birthright and gotten nothing out of it.
     
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  3. OldRegular

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    Perhaps they will start handing out prayer rugs!
     
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  4. JustChristian

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    If Dr. Mohler would be more concerned about keeping the faith and leading the Southern Baptist Seminary than he seems to be about getting involved in politics we'd all be a lot better off. If he wants to run for office that's fine. It's a free country.
     
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  5. Alive in Christ

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    JustChristian...


    Are you saying that you believe that Albert Mohler has abandoned the Christian faith?

    Maybe he feels that maintaining christian prayers at these events is part of "keeping" the faith.


    :godisgood:
     
    #5 Alive in Christ, Mar 15, 2009
  6. chuck2336

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    Dr. Mohler is doing a fine job of both keeping the faith and leading the Southern Baptist.

    If you would be more concerned with the truth instead of turning a blind eye when it comes to presdent obama then you would be much better off.
     
    #6 chuck2336, Mar 15, 2009
  7. Magnetic Poles

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    Not really. Precedent doesn't equate to constitutional. Remember that for the first 87 years as a nation, human enslavement was considered constitutional.
     
    #7 Magnetic Poles, Mar 15, 2009
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    I wonder what these liberals would have said if Bush vetted prayers?
     
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  9. chuck2336

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    I can hear it all now!

    :tonofbricks:
     
    #9 chuck2336, Mar 15, 2009
  10. Me4Him

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    Jesus said, no man comes to God except through "ME",

    When you leave Jesus "OUT", you leave God "OUT".

    So praying is nothing but a "ritual", not a "Worship".
     
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  11. preachinjesus

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    To my knowledge all White Houses since Truman have regularly vetted some prayers. I don't see why this is a bad thing. When we tangle with the State and try to affect policy there are costs.

    The Church should always be leery of any politician seeking to advance an agenda through her pure body.
     
    #11 preachinjesus, Mar 15, 2009
  12. LeBuick

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    After the benediction at the inauguration, I don't think Obama can afford not to vet future prayers. No one says you have to pray the prayer they approved. Give me the mic, I'll show you (...In the NAME OF JESUS!)
     
    #12 LeBuick, Mar 16, 2009
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