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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. steaver

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    No.

    Are you asking could I be as faithful as Abraham? I don't know if I could, God knows. He would not ask me to unless He had a good purpose and plan as He did with Abraham.



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  2. Marcia

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    No matter what Tiller did, vigilante murder is wrong. I totally abhor what Tiller did but I cannot condone what his killer did. He acted outside the law and outside the Bible.

    And now what the killer did is probably going to make things worse for pro-life legislation.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    Wrong! There should be rejoicing that unborn children will no longer be ripped apart limb by limb at his hands.
     
  4. Marcia

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    Is the new Christian ethic now the ends justify the means?

    Is it now biblical to condone the murdering of a murderer? If so, let's do away with the law and go to vigilantism.
     
  5. Revmitchell

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    So who did this?
     
  6. Marcia

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    Are you saying this makes vigilante killing okay? That's what I posted about. I am not saying abortion is okay.

    Biblically,we are supposed to abide by the law, even when it concerns those who break the law or do immoral acts. I know the Bible backs me up on this, which is why I'm disturbed by how many Christians seem to think it's okay for that guy to have killed Tiller. We become just like those outside Christ - deciding for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.
     
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    Someone please explain how this thread went to accusations of vigilante killers being endorsed.

    At least Tiller went by a bullet and not by someone stabbing him in the back of the skull and sucking out his brains without pain killers. Or being ripped apart limb by limb. The bullet was more mercy than he showed the thousands of babies he butchered.

    No, I don't endorse vigilante killing. And I don't mourn his death any more than I mourn the deaths of Hitler, Saddam, or Pol Pot.
     
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  8. Revmitchell

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    Who are theses?
     
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    I believe your right about the social clubs. and they're full of people who think becasue they socialize weekly they're automatically christians.
     
  10. Aaron

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    No, He was not. The rich young ruler was sad because he had many possessions.

    Sorry. God has already spoken on the matter. It's eminently human.

    As I said, God has already spoken on the matter.

    Tell me, what is Christ's sentiment concerning Judas? (Hint: there is an entire Psalm about him.)
     
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    Who said the ends justify the means on this board?
     
  12. windcatcher

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    No one here has condoned vigilantism. However, bringing this term into this thread promotes the evil accusations which the abortionists and choice groups would like to paint all pro-life groups and fundamental Christians.
    I must have missed the answer to this one: Scott Roeder is the man in custody for the murder of the doctor. So far there has been no association that he had close ties to any group. Whatever else he might be or claim to be..... it appears to have been a one-man vendetta.

    You seem to be confusing the gladness that some feel over knowing a doctor of questionable ethics performing late term abortions is no longer practicing with his murder. These are not the same. Murder of the doctor is just as evil as murder of the unborn.

    I do believe God can and does sometimes use man to deliver judgement in this life.... but when He does.... it is glorifying to Him and it is clear to all and undebatable that it was by His (God's) hand..... with man being the tool, and there is no question of His changing His Absolute Laws or making an exception: But this deception plays into the satan's own plan to create confusion among both those who believe.... by putting us on the defensive for something which we nor God share blame..... and those who don't know Christ and only know "Christian" by the perceptions of their personal encounters with Christians..... and by the portrayal of Christianity by the media.

    I may have missed something which you've read in this thread... if you really think someone is supportive of the murder or the murderer?

    That being said..... I do not believe that in God's plan of things that there is such a thing as coincidences: He had knowledge that this was planned by the killer and he permitted it to happen. I do not know his plan in permitting it to happen...... but I can imagine that in the following weeks, many who were planning their late-term abortions at his clinic are now having to rethink their plans or deciding to have their babies. I can be thankful and praise God for giving these mothers second chances to have their babies.... and I can pray that he will bless each one who makes this choice.

    Like the message at the site..... I do lament that any life is loss..... for whatever unnatural reason...... and that the labor of many to persue and legally bar this doctor from performing his services have been unsuccessful and were preempted by this event. That would have been a win-win and God glorifying solution..... but only God knows whether there ever would have been success in the legal route: And whatever follows after this event is in His hands. It was not Christ who did this (that is who is blamed whenever some ascribe criminal behavior to "Christians"): It was not Christian for one to take vengence into their own hands. Whatever this man's reasons were.... it was an act of his own free will and not Holy Spirit led: The Holy Spirit glorifies the Son... and this deed is not allied with the Laws of God, nor does it connect as being obediant to Christ or glorifying to Him.

    The question remains: Who are these who support or praise the killer?

    Who are these who say the ends justify the means?








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    The question that demands an answer.
     
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    No one has outright agreed with me that it was wrong to kill Tiller except I think one person.
     
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    It's been a week since this monster was put in his place, and a few words to balance the lies of the press and the cowardly disclaimers from prolifers are in order.

    Did you feel like shouting when you heard the news? I did. One individual I was with applauded. When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there is shouting. As I said before, I don't mourn for him, his widow or his children, a family of ogres who profitted from his wholesale slaughter of innocents.

    I believe many of you felt like shouting, but have been brainwashed into thinking that it was really a suppressed desire for vengeance. But I'm here to tell you—no, King Solomon speaks from the grave to tell you—that you felt like shouting because you knew a wicked man perished.

    And not your run-of-the-mill wicked man. Not the drunkard in the gutter, not the wife-beater nor the pothead (we don't rejoice over their deaths), but a man who snuffed out the lives of helpless infants for profit, and did so with the overwhelming force of the State behind him not just to protect his profession, but to assist him and shield him from the punishment for the fraud he perpetrated to kill some infants who were still legally protected (and that only because of the tireless efforts of the prolife organizations).

    So if you felt like shouting, it's okay. Go for it. It is not unspiritual, and it's a reminder that no matter how it looks from the outside, the wicked will not go unpunished. And continue to pray that the end of America's Holocaust will be as abrupt.


    Let's rejoice in a cold blooded murder.
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    Are you for real?

    me thinks...... troll ..........provacateur ...............hypocrite
     
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    And? Look the thousands of lives that will not be slaughtered limb by limb out weigh his death. Sorry,that is just the facts. If you want to stop and be sad at his death great. But while we are not rejoicing at the loss of his life, we are filled with joy over the closing of his slaughter chamber.
     
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    I outright agree with you Marcia.
     
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    That is sick and one of the most vile things I've ever read on this or any other board.
     
  20. Bro. Curtis

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    I think Freedom spoke that in a sarcastic way. I don't like to stick up for him, but he didn't mean it the way it reads.
     
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