Tonight's Fox News Republican Debate

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  1. KenH

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    Republican pollster Frank Luntz had a focus group of 30 registered New Hampshire Republicans who were undecided. Some interesting results:

    1. Most came out of the debate supporting Romney.

    2. Most were very unimpressed with Thompson.

    3. Most didn't care for Huckabee because he wears his religion on his sleeve.
     
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    Pretty small sampling to draw any conclusions.

    It would only make sense that if #1 is true, so is #2 &#3.
     
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    My wife, who votes but has little interest in politics other than what she constantly hears from me and gleans from the internet, watched the debate with me last night. I told her to tell me afterward who she was most impressed with. She brought very little pre-conceived notions or opinions to the debate. She liked Romney. I was also impressed with him last night. He reminds more of RWR than any of the other candidates.
     
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    I missed the FOX debate on Sunday, but I saw the ABC debate on Saturday.

    I think Romney was the focus of attack by the other candidates in that debate. I have to ask why that is since he lost Iowa and is trailing in NH. The answer is that he has the money to finance his own campaign, therefore he remains a threat. The irony is that it is the McCain-Feingold rules that leave Romney unrestricted in spending his own money while other candidates are restricted in the amounts of money they can raise and the methods they can use to do it. For McCain to complain about this in that debate is a terrific irony.
     
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    I think it is very clear the GOP candidates are still very worried about Romney and his $$$.
     
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    Romney rubbed me the wrong way last night. I grew very tired of his little "smirk" he wore on his face when McCain or Huckabee had to defend themselves against his "half-truth" ads.

    You can see this type of attitude on the BB and other boards. People will attack someone and when that person defends themselves folks sometimes including the attacker will get all up in arms about them displaying poor attitudes and what not giving the original attacker a pass.

    Romney all but admitted that his ads were not full of the entire truth. He said I only have 30 seconds. Well guess what if you can't tell the whole truth in 30 seconds then maybe you shouldn't be running that type of ad trying to "mis-lead" at "best" folks about other candidates.

    It's dishonest and slimy.
     
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    Romney always rubs me the wrong way. Something about him just rings insincere.

    Huckabee frequently does ,as well. Sometimes he answers questions with non answers that so much remind me of Bill Clinton.

    McCain is a problem for me. I would love to see a Vietnam Vet hold the office of President. McCain just isn't the guy.

    However, I may take another hard look at him if he lasts.
     
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    I am not surprised NH would not like a conservative like Thompson or an evangelical like Huckabee. Romney has the most to lose tomorrow. Paul also needs to have a good showing. With all his money and hype, he's going to have to prove he can get some votes. Romney has an unlimited war chest, but what good is it if you aren't getting your message across. He's going to have to do very well tomorrow or else he's going to find himself on the outside looking in.
     
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    Repeat of ABC's informercial, the word debate doesn't really seem to fit what went on. It looked more like a job interview to me. Hire me USA hire me. I'll change things.

    Trotsky loved constant change too.
     
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    I don't see where that has ever been in the cards. Ron Paul's campaign has been about spreading the message of limited, constitutional government, not about getting himself elected as these United States are far, far away from being ready to throw off the shackles of Democratic/Republican socialism.
     
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    Perhaps. It will be interesting to evaluate why and how this fails, if that is the case. I certainly think he could be making his case better. We've talked about that and agreed that Paul has not helped himself and his message.
     
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    Well, Ron Paul has never been a great speaker and he is not one today. He is what he is.

    I doubt that regardless of eloquence that the American people are ready to reject the vast web of social programs that the Democrats and Republicans have put in place.
     
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    But they are waking up to the lies and misinformation spread by the controlled media. And the reaction may not be healthy for the elite sponsored talking heads that make their living shilling for the establishment.

    Ron Paul supporters say hello to Sean Hannity

    The revolution against the global warfare/welfare state is just begining. Ron Paul is part of the solution but not all of it.

    I get the feeling that Ron Paul isn't "hollywood" and "Rambo" enough for people here Ken.
     
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    I think it goes beyond oratory. Paul has hurt himself in other ways.

    But you're right that Americans are unwilling to cut off the nanny state spigot. They want it all for free....or so they say.
     
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    What other ways?
     
  16. KenH

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    There is no perfect candidate.

    And it is oh so easy to criticize those who have the guts to step into the ring.

    I plead guilty in this matter myself.
     
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    Well, criticism is one thing. Analysis is another. But no one put a gun to the candidates' heads. they have to be willing to endure the analysis, criticism, etc. so long as it's content based and not people criticising Chelsea or the Bush daughters, etc.

    And no one is perfect - only Christ.

    There are better and worse candidates, but no perfect ones.

    I'm putting away my laptop now. I was planning on staying awake to watch a football game between LSU and Ohio State, but no sense depriving myself of good sleep to watch LSU just walk away with it. Good night all.....


    wait...OSU just intercepted LSU. Suddenly I'm not so sleepy :)
     
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    My question will still be here when you come back. What other ways?
     

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