I see that Robert Schullers Crystal Cathedral is gone from the slippery slope to a free fall. Senior Pastor Robert Schuller Jr. has been relieved of his post and sixty five million ($65,000.000) in property up for sale to satisfy indebtness. Also there is talk of D Jas Kennedy (Coral Ridge) having similar problems. There have been other instances of crumbling empires when the programs have been constructed around a person; Example Oral Roberts. On the other hand Thomas Roads Babtist Church has been putting up some big numbers since the death of Dr. Falwell. What kind of change is responsible for this?