Twelve-Year Old Convicted For Shooting Abusive Neo-Nazi Dad

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  1. General Mung Beans

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    http://www.salon.com/2013/01/14/boy_who_shot_neo_nazi_dad_is_convicted_of_murder/?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com
    This is the very definition of miscarriage of justice.
     
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    How is this a miscarriage of justice?

    From the referenced link:
     
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    Self-defense. If a person can shoot someone who simply knocks on their door and claim self-defense, then it only seems logical that a kid can claim self-defense in the shooting of an abusive father.
     
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    Except -- there's also a statement in the article that claims a police report says the kid saw an episode of CSI (or similar show) where a kid shot an abusive father and didn't go to jail, so he thought he wouldn't go to jail, either.

    If the kid had said he did it to keep his father from abusing him again, I'd have supported the self-defense plea without a second thought. Once he said he shot him because he didn't think he'd be punished for it, that's where I step back and start asking the question: Do we want someone walking the streets who thinks he can shoot people if he won't be punished for it?
     
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    I don't suppose you'd care to prove this, would you ?
     
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    His plea was self-defense.

    How soon we forget:

     
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    You made the claim that I can shoot someone for knocking at my door. The story you put up, with it's nuances and unanswered questions does not back that up.

    Also, does this mean Senator Robert Byrd could have been killed by his kids, and had it cleared by the courts ? He was a member of an extreme hate group.
     
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    Are you really so ______________ fill in the blank.

    Yoshihiro Hattori walked up to the door, knocked on it. The homeowner shot him saying it was self defense as he believed Yoshihiro had evil intentions. The homeowner was acquitted ... the self-defense defense upheld. Just what I said.

    If you do not understand now you never will. So enough said. Bye.
     
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    Not a single comment about the boy's statement to police that he didn't think he would go to jail....
     
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    LOL

    Like I said, you left a bunch of stuff out. I merely asked you to clarify. The incident is there for people to see. You cannot just shoot people who knock on your door.
     
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    Read the report as stated in the article cited later. Even though biased against the shooter and even presuming to relate the dead man's thoughts at the time, it belies CBT's summary above.
     

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