Under Grace or Under Law?...Round 3

OK, the thread's official now. DITW is making the "you deny God's Word" accusation. I was beginning to worry he'd forget to do it this time.

Nice, shining example of Christian maturity and putting words in the mouths of other posters.

Now all that's left is to question anothers' salvation, and all will be complete...

 

He wrote this because he did sin. He woudn't have to keep his body under subjection if he didn't sin.

Again, he writes because of sin. Paul had sinful thoughts. He tells us that he had to bring these thoughts into subjection. The admission of the fact that he had to resist the devil, means that there were times that he gave into the devil, otherwise why write it.

Is this what you say about Paul? Perhaps it is an indication that we are human, and that we still have a sn nature. Look at what Paul says about himself:

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Are you morally better than Paul?

 

Apparently you have not even begun to read Shiloh's posts!:type:

 

All that is true. And to BE true the Law must STILL exist!

It must still condemn the wicked!

it must STILL define truth and morality!

it must STILL be binding.

it's penalty (the second death in the lake of fire) must STILL be applicable to those who reject the gospel.

Do you have even one text in all of scripture that meantions "the old way of lawkeeping"??

Is the bondage spoken of in Galatians "needless obedience to God's word"??

Or is it being bound to man-made-traditions of the Jews?

In Christ,

Bob

 

rbell,
You have a great example of Christian maturity with an evil looking dog with a syringe in its mouth as an avatar. NOT!!!!

I am surprised the board actually allows it. That sure is not glorifying Christ in the least to be promoting such as that.

Don't talk to me about Christian maturity until you can mature yourself and see what kind of damage that can to to the Christian testimony and witness.

 

:applause:

You make a good point! That must be the "bad bible" that I am not reading like I accuse others of doing with the real Bible.

I believe you are quoting 1Humanism 12 vs 21.

In Christ,

Bob

 

Reckon rbell thinks Jesus, Peter, Paul, John and others were not mature?

They all make reference to people denying God's Word.

 

I never claimed to be a paragon of maturity...but I also don't question the salvation of others and make vitriolic accusations on every thread I participate in either.

Sorry my avatar has damaged your walk with God. In deference to your weaker faith, I'll change it. Hope your Christian walk can recover.

But I have to say...your haughty and condemning attitude probably has turned more folks away than my excitable chihuahua.

You, sir, are no Jesus, Peter, Paul or John. They would rebuke people for theological error. You launch invective when anyone disagrees with you about anything-no matter the level of disagreement or discussion. Trust me...your attitude sets you far, far apart from those you mentioned.

 

I don't question people's salvation. The Word of God reveals that. No need to question at all. And by the very written Word of God, I have been rebuking those who are walking and teaching theological error.

 

Diggin in da Word:

The topic of this thread is: Under Grace or Under Law?

Dogs or personal attacks, ad hominems, and such demeaning langauge have no place in this thread. If you can't keep to the topic, then don't post at all.

 

D28,

Like DitW, I question that picture. The picture is a picture of evil. It does not promote Christ. Nor do the attacks of rbell against those who have many verses to show how a Christian is to walk promote Christ. It is not our attitude that is not of Christ.

Our focus has been on His Word and what is in it. We do not try to justify sin by saying God will overlook it since we made a profession of faith.

 

Mike, if you don't see an evil picture in that dog with the syringe, you need better spiritual glasses.

 

Amazing!

rbell comes in attacking my maturity and nothing is said. No matter that the picture is evil and his attitude sure is not Christian.

Is this really a Christian board? or is it just a place to justify sin?

 

His Blood --

Is this a new poster? Welcome!

 

DITW...

My last post on this issue...I'm sure the mods are weary of it anyhow...

I grew weary of watching you question the salvation of others, and accuse them of "denying the Word of God." I made attempts to be civil, and was met with some of the same accusations. I've reported several of your posts...they display attitudes and accusations that a mature Christian should not post.

I disagree with folks all the time here...but I do not throw out the vitriolic and uncalled-for insults that you do. You should really do some self-examination...why are you unable to have discussions, and even disagreements with others without going nuclear?

I don't question your love for the Lord, and your reverence for His Word. I simply think you need to work on stepping back, counting to ten, and realize:

1. that there's not gonna be 100.000000000% theological agreement on everything.
2. Not everything is a life-or death issue.
3. It's possible for others to love God as much as you and still disagree.
4. Some of your posts have been mean and offensive, and you owe some apologies.
5. "But he started it!" is not a valid reason for flaming others.

 

When one is saying we can sin and not worry about punishment, I have a right to say otherwise. The Word of God tells us to do so.

We are to expose the sin through the Word of God, just as Christ did, just as Paul did, just as others did.

Some do not believe that is necessary though. Don't tel people sin will take them to hell. Don't tell them that God hates the workers of iniquity. If you do, they may not join up. We want a big number in our social club we call a church.

No thank you, rbell. You can pacify the sinner all you want with smooth talk. I will continue to reveal what the Word of God commands me to do.

 

1. if the theological belief does not line up with God's Word, then those who hold to God's Word should reveal what God's Word says.

2. When it comes to man, it is life and death. Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

3. I can't find the phrase 'agree to disagree'. As a matter of fact, Psalm 133 says the brethren should dwell together in unity.

4. I have read DidW's posts and see nothing but truth. Apologies are in order for those who disagree with God's Holy Word. But don't apologize to DidW, talk to God.

5. Funny thing is it is not those who are disagreeing with the Word of God who are getting reprimanded by a moderator. It is the one's who are speaking the truth from the Word.