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Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by Rufus_1611, Jun 15, 2007.
I wonder how much they'll like him when Uncle Sam tells them they need to preach in Spanish, or lose their tax free status.
That's one of the most random attacks on Bush I have ever heard.
Where did you get the idea that such a thing was even a remote possibility?
==The reason for this is that many "conservatives" are now showing that they were never really true conservatives. They, like Bush, believe in big government and nation building. They maybe moral conservatives, they may be Christians, but they are not complete and true conservatives. They are big government liberals. That is why they like Bush. As for Bush being a "devout Christian", well, I think that is questionable. I am not saying he is not saved (etc) but I am saying that he is a politician. He needs the votes/support of the "religious right". What better way to do that then to become one of them. Yet we see, on more than one occasion, Bush using foul language (etc). I don't know if Bush is a true Christian or not, nor will that affect my support/disapproval of his policies, but I do know that I am suspect of any claim of any politician.
I'd say most politicians today are acting on the advice and teaching of one Niccolo Machiavelli. The Bush administration have taken it two steps beyond that and have also incorporated Trotsky's perpetual revolution (change) and Strauss' "noble lie". 99 44/100 percent of them seem to have no loyalty to these United States nor the principals on which it was founded. I think we can sum up the two party system that has taken over our constitutional republic as the warfare/welfare state. Corporatism has managed to dismantle and replace what was once a government of by and for the people.
Hi, Baptist Believer, one of the old-timers around here.
Yeah, I'm grumpy this A.M. I guess I said it because of Bush's open hostility towards his base. To me, it's not that far-fetched.
He's not a hit with THIS Southern Baptist.
I appreciate what he's done with social issues and SCOTUS appointments, but I'm not a fan of his fiscal or war policies.
They aren't even "his" policies. They're one worlder policies drawn up by the likes of the CFR, Trilaterals and the energy/military industrial complex. At one time the great empires killed and enslaved people for want of gold, now it's all for oil and private central banking. Greed. Nothing new under the sun.
Oil? Are we still on that debunked junk?
He's not a hit with this Southern Baptist, either. I think he's a traitor to the USA beside his so-called "conservative base."
GW can bring a crowd of Hispanics to their feet, also, just speak a little spanish to tickle their ears. And he knows how to tell Americans that islam is a peaceful religion and they worship the same god as Christians. He caters to whatever crowd he's at and says what he thinks they want to hear. It's all very well researched and rehearsed. And I cringe anymore whenever I hear his voice - like chalk scraping the wrong way on a blackboard. I don't hate him (I don't hate anyone), but as the President of this country, he disgusts me totally. Ever since I found out about his bin Laden family ties going way back, my opinion of him has been on a steady decline and his job performance has made it worse.
Amen to that. Baptists should be furious at this guy for pandering for the Christian vote and promoting every liberal cause that man has invented. Bush is of the past, history, so there is really no purpose in raking him over the coals. Time will do that, and it is short.
The real question is, are Christians going to stand up for what is right in 2008, and support a candidate who really believes in God, morals, and the American people, or are we going to lose our spine and vote for abortionist A from the republican party to keep abortionist B from the democratic party from winning?
a candidate who really believes in God
We could do with one of these too..........
not a hit with this one either. I wish I'd been polled.
Otherwise . . . If you are a politician and you don't really believe, don't say that you do. If you only believe on Sundays and not during the week, tell us that. Don't think that I am so stupid I won't notice.
The tragedy of the whole situation is what his presidency could have become, and what it did become. This is the result of pandering to Godly voters then acting out the opposite, ineptness in leadership, and surrounding oneself with dishonest and incompetent advisors to run our country.
The last four administrations (at least) surrounded themselves with dishonest (Machiavellian) advisors, I resist calling them incompetent though, from the looks of it those advisors...CFR, Trilaterals and Skull and Bones' agendas are moving right along putting the final blocks in place for their glorious NWO. G.W. is just another puppet working for the global elite. The next person to pose as POTUS will be the same. Unless...there is another "terrorist attack" either real or false flag, then we may have him as decider for life. The infrastructure for a good ole fashion dictatorship is already in place and waiting...
I know some that are essentially a one-issue voter~abortion~and all the good they expected was conservative SCOTUS appointments. At least he's done that, though ya wonder if an opening came up within the next few months if we'd get another Roberts-type appointment?
Abortion is what our good friends at the UN think of as an important part of world population control. China is the model. As long as Americans are willing to submit themselves to the NWO and/or deny it's existence we're going to have to live with killing babies.