USA says Iran not terrorist state

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  1. church mouse guy

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    I saw this one coming.
     
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    How come "O" isn't on his knees?????
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    Obama is making a fool of himself.
     
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    Oh no! There name is off a list! I'm sure this isn't at all part of the negotiations and I'm sure we'll stop gathering intelligence on them right?
     
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    Why.....certainly!! Lol :laugh::laugh:
     
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    Obama did not have to make a fool of himself. It is his natural self!
     
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    I keep telling you all, he's liable to come out of this smelling like a rose, especially if Iran effectively deals with ISIS as an unofficial proxy of the U.S.. The potential for Iran to gain greatly in world opinion here is great, and don't think they don't know that.

    The potential for this to morph into an all-out Sunni-Shia war is great also, which I don't know it that prospect could be part of a grand plan on someone's part anyway. Let em' kill each other off. This rumble has been brewing for centuries, better for them to do it now when none of the players are equipped with nuclear weapons yet.

    The war industry/neocons should prosper well from such a conflict and it will only make Israel stronger by weakening her enemies.
     
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    Interesting points...you may be right.
     
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    BINGO! :applause:

    They didn't just happen to be taken off the list of terrorist states. There's a negotiation at work.

    When you've got 47 US Senators sending a letter saying that no deal will stay in place after Obama is out of office, then the Secretary of State and the President and his administration have to offer something up that shows they are acting in good faith. Taking Iran off the list of terrorist states is a good start.

    Now back to what you (IRAN) will do for us if you want the economic embargo partially lifted.
     
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    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dg...error-list-praises-it-for-fighting-terrorism/

    The mask is coming off faster than ever.

    You know the country responsible for killing hundreds of marines, which provided sanctuary to Al Qaeda and whose terrorist proxies helped give Al Qaeda the skills to carry out 9/11?

    They’re no longer terrorists. Sure their terrorist groups currently control parts of Lebanon and Yemen, but they’re not terrorists. Because if Iran was a state sponsor of terror, then Obama letting them have the bomb might look bad. This way it’s fine.

    SNIP

    Here’s what Obama chose to turn his back on.

    1..A Marine had thrown his body in front of the truck to try stop the vehicle and afterward for five days, Nevells and other Marines had dug through the rubble for the bodies of the men they had served with.

    One of the first Marines on the scene heard voices coming from underneath the rubble. “Get us out. Don’t leave us.”

    The Marines lost more people that day than at any time since Iwo Jima and the number of Americans murdered that day by a terrorist group was a record that would stand until September 11.

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    2. Colonel William R. Higgins was captured by Hezbollah, the terrorist group acting as Iran’s hand in Lebanon, and tortured for months until his body was dumped near a mosque.

    An autopsy report found that he had been starved and had suffered multiple lethal injuries that could have caused his death. The skin on his face had been partially removed along with his tongue and he had also been castrated.

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    3. William Francis Buckley, the CIA station chief, was also captured and tortured for months. On video tapes released by his Hezbollah captors, he was incoherent and his mind had been broken by the horrors inflicted on his ravaged body and his soul.

    “They had done more than ruin his body,” CIA Director William Casey said. “His eyes made it clear his mind had been played with. It was horrific, medieval and barbarous”

    4. Robert Stethem, a Navy diver, was brutally murdered when Hezbollah terrorists took over TWA flight 847. The Iranian-backed terrorists, one of whom was Imad Mughniyah, beat and kicked him to death.

    “They were jumping in the air and landing full force on his body. He must have had all his ribs broken,” Uli Derickson, the stewardess, described. “I was sitting only 15 feet away. I couldn’t listen to it. I put my fingers in my ears. I will never forget. I could still hear. They put the mike up to his face so his screams could be heard by the outside world.”
     
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    I have never understood why Reagan did not respond to the bombing of the Marine barracks!

    I also believe that taking Iran off the terror list was Obama's way of giving the finger to Netanyahu!
     
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    Post Vietnam paralysis.
     
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    That's right the war industry/neocons could arm both sides and make out like bandits. Thery're already arming the Sunni "terrorists" so they could potentially double their profits over night if they armed the Shia "terrorists" too.

    Who cares if the U.S. government has to break it's own laws to do it? Not that many in Washington feel the laws they pass apply to them anyway.

    Not only that but it's hyper hypocritical of a nation like the USA who funds and arms terrorists, oops I mean "moderate" Islamic rebels by the thousands who defect to the "dark side" as soon as Washington's check clears the bank to be calling any nation a "terrorist state".
     
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    It is a mistake for the US to arm anyone on either side. Aside from the fact that we do not have the money all sides in the conflicts have their own agenda in the end that the US and most of the free world will not like. They all want their own form of total dominance.
     
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    Well to bad for them the USA is the only nation on this planet that has the right to dominate the world.

    Don't believe me? Ask a neocon.
     
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    http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...beck-says-barack-obama-took-iran-hamas-us-te/

    Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.
     
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    I believe I was correct poncho. You don't like this country at all do you?

    You have to be delusional to call the Washington Post neocon or new conservative. Just because they point out that Obama lies does not mean the leopard has changed his spots.

    Frankly the country could use some conservative reporting from the Washington Post or NY Times!
     
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    If you are accusing me of not being loyal to the state then you are correct.

    As I am an American: of, relating to, or characteristic of the United States or its inhabitants. I'm loyal to America and it's people, it's constitution, and it's founding principles you on the other hand seem to be loyal only to the state. Big difference.

    By contrast the "state" is 1. (political) A legitimized institute of criminal plunder having self-appointed and immutable power of force over all persons within its geographic boundaries. Acting with impunity, the state will take your money, your life, and the lives of your children, unless you voluntarily offer them first.

    This is where your loyalty lies. Not mine and I am quite happy and content to openly admit that.

    Then you are being inconsistent OR. You call Obama a liar in one breath then tell me I'm a "conspiracy theorist" for pointing out his lies about Russia and Ukraine. Make up your mind. Either he's a liar or his isn't.

    If demonizing world leaders and accusing them of horrendous criminal acts without any proof is your idea of being "conservative" then the New York Times and Washington Post should be right up your alley. Along with Murdoch's Faux Snews and his Wall Street Journal.

    And let's not leave out CNN with it's resident warmonger "Cry Wolf Wolf Wolf" Blitzer.
     
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