Versions evidence that Paul wrote Hebrews

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  1. Ed Edwards

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    on the first page of Hebrewes in the KJV1611 Edition
    it says:

    Hebrews 1 (KJV16111 Edition):
    The Epistle of Pavl the Apoftle to the Hebrewes.

    Therefore, Paul wrote Hebrews!

    By contrast consider:
    Hebrews 1 (HCSB = Christian Standard Bible /Holman, 2003/ )
    HEBREWS
     
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    Well, if it is in the 1611 it must be true!:laugh:
     
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    Hebrews 1 (KJV1873 Edition):
    The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the
    Hebrews

    Hebrews 1 (NIV):
    Hebrews

    Hebrews 1 (NLT):
    Hebrews

    Hebrews 1 (NASB):
    The Letter to the
    Hebrews

    Source of this information, founts
    Today's Parallel Bible (Zondervan, 2000)


     
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    I thought Apollos wrote Hebrews?
     
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    That would be my guess also .
     
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    Someone who worked with Timothy:

    Heb 13:23-25 (KJV1611 Edition):
    Know yee, that our brother Timothie is set at libertie,
    with whom if he come shortly, I will see you.
    24 Salute all them that haue the rule ouer you,
    and al the Saints. They of Italy
    salute you.
    25 Grace be with you all. Amen. Written to the Hebrewes,
    from Italy, by Timothie
    .
     
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    This is a good point, and is significant for four reasons:

    First, Timothy is the single person named in Hebrews besides historical references and persons of the Trinity.

    Second, every mention of Timothy in the New Testament is in relationship to Paul. Paul goes to Derbe where Timothy is who believed (Ac 16:1). The brethren send Paul away by sea while Silas and Timothy stay (17:14), but as soon as Paul reaches Athens he summons Silas and Timothy to come quickly to him (17:15). When Silas and Timothy arrive, Paul evangelizes the Jews (18:5). Later Paul sends Timothy and Erastus to Macedonia (19:22). Timothy and others accompany Paul into Asia (20:4). Timothy, Paul’s “fellow worker,” and others salute the Romans (Ro 16:21). Paul’s sends Timothy, his “beloved son,” to teach his doctrine to the Corinthian church (1 Cor 4:17), which is advised to receive Timothy as it would Paul (16:10). Paul and Timothy, “our brother," salute the Corinthian church members in the next letter (2 Cor 1:1), and Jesus Christ is said to have been preached among them by Paul, Silvanus and Timothy (1:19). Paul and Timothy salute the church at Philippi (Phil 1:1), to which Paul hopes to send Timothy soon (2:19). Paul and Timothy, “our brother," salute the church at Colossi (Col 1:1). Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy salute the church of the Thessalonians in the first letter to them (1 Thess 1:1), to whom Paul sends Timothy “our brother” to establish and comfort them (3:2), and from whom Timothy returned to Paul (3:6). Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy salute the church of the Thessalonians the second time (2 Thess 1:1). Paul salutes Timothy his “own son in the faith” (1 Tim 1:2), charges him, his “son,” to fight a good fight (1:18) and to keep that which was committed to his trust (6:20). Paul salutes Timothy, his “dearly beloved son,” in another letter (2 Tim 1:2). Paul and Timothy “our brother” salute Philemon in a letter (Philem 1:1).

    Third, apart from six times in Acts, Timothy only appears in Paul’s letters in the New Testament, as Paul’s personal companion in the ministry.

    Fourth, the author’s mention of Timothy at Hebrews 13:23 offers a canonical bridge to the beginning of Paul’s personal letters, which begin with 1 Timothy. The canonical bridge is also perceptible in the opening chapter of 1 Timothy, where the major them of Hebrews (= remaining faithful to the true faith and not turning away from it) is repeated several times.
     
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    I enjoyed reading that Bluefalcon.

    A.F.
     
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    I'm going to have to look for an old book I have. I somehow remember Pauls health failing him in his later years so he dictated one of his letters. Was that Hebrews?
     
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    According to a postscript to 1 Corinthians 16 (found in the Textus Receptus), Paul was assisted by four men.

    1Cr 16:24 (KJV) My love [be] with you all in Christ Jesus. Amen. The first [epistle] to the Corinthians was written from Philippi by Stephanas and Fortunatus and Achaicus and Timotheus.

    In four of Paul's letters, he specifies that he had written some portion "with mine own hand" (1Cr 16:21, Gal. 6:11, 2Th 3:17, Phm 1:19) as if it were noteable. It was somewhat common at the time for authors to dictate to a secretary. This is to point out that the person holding the pen is not neccesarily the author of the message.
     
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    I do remember which was one reason scribes were a profession. So Heb was not one on the list?
     
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    I can only imagine the response on this Board to the dictum offered by one of my professors: "The only trouble with the traditional title of the Epistle of Paul to the Hebrews is that it is neither an Epistle, nor by Paul, nor was it written to the Hebrews."

    I love to play, "Let's you and him fight" so will back off now and see what happens!
     
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    According your own words you love to stir things up and you enjoy strife between others. Are you afraid to "get your feet wet?" What is your opinion? Do you have any thoughts on the subject or do you just pass along the thoughts of others?
     
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    Lighten up a little. Surely you can see the twinkle in my eyes!

    But since you asked -- the theology of Hebrews is quite different from that of Paul. Not opposed to Paul, but considerably different in emphasis and expression. That suggests another author. But I am far less persuaded than some others about Apollos as the author.

    In the end, does it matter? I cannot agree with some inerrantists who ask us to believe that all Biblical materials are written by the traditional authors. I think that begs critical scholarship and adds an unnecessary item to the list of theological necessities.
     
  16. Bluefalcon

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    Uh, as in maybe all of Paul's writings but one (i.e. Hebrews) were written to Gentiles? Maybe Gentiles and Jews were a little different in presuppositions, historical and spiritual background, worldview, etc., etc., etc. Give me a break.
     
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    Hebrews is an amazing book. Whoever was behind it's contents, one thing is for sure, he was really living in the Spirit.

    Great Christian.

    I believe from what I have read that the title 'to the Hebrews' was added because of it's contents.

    The first several chapters of Acts are related to this book I think. The author of it was in there somewhere in my opinion. :)

    David
     

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