versions of the bible

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  1. Heavenbound01

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    do you think that there should be only one version of the bible instead of all the other versions there are? like the kjv(thats the only one i read)
     
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    Warm Southern greetings to both of you! To answer Heavenbound01's question, I'd have to say that for me, there IS only one Bible and for the 50 years that I've been saved, it's never let me down.
     
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    grannygumbo,
    may i ask which one that is. KJV?


    happyg,
    care to explain? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG] But of course! Only I've always called it Bible, or the Holy Bible & didn't start hearing it called king james version till much later in life. I never knew about onlyism till I joined BB.
     
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    You are right, it is the holy bible period. but todays society have made many more versions out of the holy bible. some taking away, some adding,trying to get people to understand better. I feel like a christian is going to understand every word of the bible with gods help. people shouldnt change it. do you agree? disagree? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Well, I sure have never had a problem understanding it. I DO have a problem understanding this new-fangled thang called a 'puter. [​IMG] BTW, have ya checked out all the threads that discuss this very topic? There sure are a good many found in the Bible Versions/Translations room. :D
     
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    I will check in to it.. thank you grannygumbo!!! [​IMG]
     
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    Sure thing, and God Bless! [​IMG]
     
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    As to the question, I think it's very useful when the whole congregation picks one to use.
     
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    thats true usn2pulpit. thanks for the feedback.
     
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    I suspect this will get shifted to the versions forum soon.

    "do you think that there should be only one version of the bible instead of all the other versions there are?"
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    One version for everybody on earth you mean?
     
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    mioque,
    i know that there are different bibles, i mean just like versions of the kjv. you know what i mean? [​IMG]
     
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    I used the NKJV, and that's my Bible!!
     
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    And this topic is shifted to Versions.

    I LOVE the variety of translations personally. As a student of Greek and Hebrew, there are MANY good words/phrases to translate from those languages into English.

    Get about 5-6 translations (including a revision of the AV1611) and it will enhance your understanding of what God actually said!
     
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    Which King James Version do you use?
    Here is a sample test:

    1. Ruth III:15d (KJV1611):

    ... and he went into the citie.

    2. Ruth 3:15 (KJV1769):

    ... and she went into the city.

    3. Ruth 3:15 (KJV1873):

    ... and he went into the city.

    I note that most KJV electronic sources
    are from the KJV1769.


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    If Dr. Bob doesn't mind I'll back him up here. I believe maybe more like 10 differant versions personally. But definetly not just one translation. [​IMG]
     
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    The Bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Most of the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, and the New Testament was written in Greek. As is the case with all languages, both Hebrew and Greek express in language form concepts that are unique to those languages, and which can not be accurately translated into another language. Therefore, each translation of the Bible only approximately conveys the message of the original, and bits and pieces, and sometimes big pieces, of the original message are lost to the reader of the translations. The Amplified Bible, Kenneth Wuest’s Expanded Translation, and other similar translations, attempt to “fill in the blanks,” so to speak, by adding to the translation many explanatory words that other translations either completely do without, or add in the margins.

    But since these concepts can not be accurately translated, and only approximations can be made, studying the approximations used by various translators and editors of many different versions can help the reader to get the best possible understanding in English.

    Additionally, there are many words in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, that are used only once or twice and that are seldom, if ever, found in secular literature of the same period, and translators can often only guess which translation is best. This is especially true of many of the names of plants and animals in the Bible. Therefore, by using and comparing many different translations, one can learn the educated guesses of many different translators. The translators of the KJV made mention of their guess work in their preface.

    KJOists often believe that the Holy Spirit intervened and eliminated the guess work even though the translators expressly say that they guessed. But even if the Holy Spirit did help them to guess correctly each and every time, the concepts in the Hebrew of the Old Testament and the concepts in the Greek of the New Testament that can accurately be expressed in only those languages, can NOT have been accurately translated even in the KJV. Even if the Holy Spirit anointed the minds of the translators so that they could give us the closest possible approximation, we still have only approximations in the KJV. Yes, the approximations are in many cases close approximations, but nonetheless they are approximations. The original concepts, which can only be expressed in the original languages because of the nature of the languages, are the actual word of God; all translations are approximations of the word of God.

    This is the very reason why millions of Christians today are learning at least a little bit about the Hebrew and Greek Languages. For them, approximations are not good enough because approximations are not perfect. The King James translation of the Bible is an approximation to the perfect the word of God that can be expressed with total accuracy only in the languages in which they were conceived.

    These same facts, however, have been stated over and over again, but the KJOists CHOOSE to ignore the facts and believe a lie. Their pastors actively discourage them from learning Greek and Hebrew because those pastors who have learned Greek and Hebrew KNOW that the claims of KJOism are false, and they KNOW that those who learn Greek and Hebrew discover for themselves that the claims of KJOism are false.

    Studying many different translations, and the reasons why each group of translators made the choices that it made, can be a very helpful tool in learning Greek and Hebrew.

    [ July 29, 2004, 02:51 AM: Message edited by: Craigbythesea ]
     
  19. Ed Edwards

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    I usually use the Crosswalk.com KJV which
    is the KJV1769.
    I also have the two KJV1611 reprints, the
    one from Nelson (now out of print and avialable
    used only) and the one from Henderson.
    They appear to be the same including the error
    where the third page of Micah has "Ioel" at
    the top ;)

    Before I got my HCSB for home, church, and
    personal use - I was using a KJV1769 with
    the notes of Tim LaHaye called PROPHECY
    STUDY BIBLE.

    I also have a KJV1873. It is in TODAY'S
    PARALLEL BIBLE which has four bibles,
    each page has two colums with two bibles.
    the Bibles in TODAY'S PARALLEL BIBLE
    are:
    KJV1873
    NASB - New American Standard Bible
    NIV - New International Version
    NLT - New Living Translation.

    I like to think of it as a four barrelled
    canon (cannon ;) )

    Which KJVs do you have for use?

    Note my trailer has the spelling from
    the KJV1611 edition NOT the KJV1769 edition:

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Sonne of God! [​IMG]
     
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    I hope your statement is
    a metaphor for multiple copies of the same
    translation/version. Paper Bibles only last
    5-6 years for average Chrsistian usage, wear out
    and have to be replaced. Of course, if one
    just lets it sit on the shelve, except for
    births, deaths, and weddings -- it can last
    for generations.

    A month ago i was a heavy Bible reader.
    But i've been on a special diet [​IMG]

    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Sonne of God! [​IMG]
     

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