The previous thread " the Necessity for the Special Creation" may have covered the most of the arguments for both parties, but I am not sure whether both parties may have some more arguments to deal with, and if there are some more arguments to discuss further, we'd better clarify it on this occasion. I thought this issue would be a subject between Catholics ( or their supporters) and Protestants, but the previous discussion suggests the disagreement among the protestants, even among the Baptists is quite a lot. So, let's spend some more time for this issue. If we do not have any new arguments but just repeat the same argument, then we may rather have to close the thread sooner. One of the controversial interpretation of the bible verses was about Matthew 1:20, especially about the word Genethen and the one in her. The Greek Word can have several meanings and should not be interpretted as one meaning. However, we should eliminate any subjective, human insertion of the human philosophy or human ignorance etc. Another issue was The One in her, and was it talking about the ovum or egg of Mary? or the person, the human being Jesus Christ?