We Need Another Reagan

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Aaron, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Aaron

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    So now we declare "war" on poverty. Do they honestly expect us to believe that if we add $1 billion to the $45 billion we're spending, one more program to the 30-odd we have -- and, remember, this new program doesn't replace any; it just duplicates existing programs. Do they believe that poverty is suddenly going to disappear by magic? Yet any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we're denounced as being against their humanitarian goals. They say we're always against things, we're never for anything.

    Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.

    Reagan: October 27, 1964

    With love to CBT, Robert Snow and Doctor Who
     
  2. righteousdude2

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    Only if....

    ....he repents of the bone-head amnesty move that he made and promise to never do that again! :laugh:
     
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    On this issue I believe you to be correct, not just because of a person needed to change the course of this nation, but more immediate, to give direction to the Republican Party. The party seems like it is aimlessly drifting without one central leader. The Speaker and Mitch McConnell do not make it. Since the election, Obama has been running circles everything the Republicans do. There is no one on the horizon for 2016. Reagan was a leader with vision. Maybe those only come around once a century, but we sure need one now. Leadership like the Bushes is not going to get the job done. I will say Reagan is by far the best President since I have been alive. (1952)
     
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    Oh, Truman was not so bad for a Democrat--he was a Southern Baptist. And Eisenhower--Ike--was a great man by any standard.

    We don't have another Reagan and we fell for a Mormon who was too slow in action. I like Texas Gov. Perry but I wish that he would go to the bother to learn the ropes in DC. Of course, I am a former Texan.... Bush was always a moderate but he is a nice person and I would like to have him for a neighbor and his father is brilliant. The trouble with the GOP is that the average Republican can make an above average income and does not want to waste time with politics. Why go to DC when you can live the good life out west where the men are men and the women are glad of it?
     
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    In my opinion Reagan was the best president of the 20th Century. The Republican party is essentially leaderless but I don't believe that is their worst problem. The biggest problem I believe is that the Republican Senate as a body acts as if the Republican House is from the wrong side of the tracks.
     
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    I miss Reagan like a hemorrhoid.
     
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    Deleted by me!
     
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    What about Coolidge? The GOP is divided but it always has been.

    Obama is a cult figure, and in the long run, he will put the Democrats out of power for lack of intelligent solutions. I don't think that Obama is a nice guy and I grow tired of his lies.
     
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    Know the feeling!
    I started to reply to his post, but then I thought, "WWJD", and just went on to another topic!!!:laugh::thumbs:
     
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    I did, then felt guilty about using Scripture to do so and hit the delete keys!
     
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    Just to paint the picture of Reagan clearer, the two worst Presidents since 1952 (exclude Obama, because in all fairness, the book is still being written) are Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter. Now there are a pair of hemorrhoids. Carter had no leadership or organizational ability. This guy could not have lead his mother to go out to eat. The country was in total disarray both domestically (15% interest rates) and foreign policy wise. Then we have Lyndon Johnson, the man who increased our involvement in Vietnam and is responsible for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths. Our cities were in total chaos. That does not even touch the subjects of Bell helocopters and the Gulf of Tonken resolution, which was a fabricated lie.
     
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    :type: Exactly!
     
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    And just how much does a hemorrhoid miss him?
     
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    As usual, I enjoy reading what you post, SaturnNeptune, and find you to be a great poster. However, on this one you can't be serious.

    Neither Johnson nor Carter were as bad as Nixon, who rivaled Warren G. Harding. Both of those Presidents (Republicans, by the way) were awash in controversy. Of course, Nixon was the one who had to resign in disgrace, and most likely would have faced trial had he not been pardoned by Gerald Ford.

    If you want to talk about fiscal nightmares, let's not forget Humphrey or George Walker Bush (also Republicans). Both had policies that gave us the financial messes that are now a part of history.

    IMO, Bush (43) is the worst President ever - not just the 20th century - though the current President is really shaping up to take that moniker away from W. The Bush Administration gave us this financial mess (and YES, it IS their fault). They gave us an endless war in Iraq that is bleeding us to death monetarily. The Bush Administration appointees at the SEC sat back when the people who created the mortgage fiasco (and in some cases outright fraud) claimed that they were exempt from regulations under the Securities Act of 1933 so the SEC had no jurisdiction. Don't forget that it was during the Bush Administration that the uptick rule was eliminated (2007). Even Cox himself (in 2008) supported the reinstatement of this rule. Also, remember that the Bush Administration spent more money than the first 42 Presidents combined. Bush reportedly admitted that he was not abiding by the laws outlined with FISA (John Dean has written about this at length, accusing him of an impeachable offense). It is going to take us YEARS to clean up the mess that was left by W.

    That being said (or written), the current President is seemingly set to take this title of "Worst President" using the same criteria I have listed above. At the rate we appear to be going, it is going to take even longer.

    As far as Reagan, I have never really understood this seemingly godlike status he has received. I liked him as President (I was a Republican back then), but I don't remember him being more than a good President. If you believe Paul O'Neill, Cheney is reported to have said that Reagan taught us that "deficits don't matter." [See the book "The Price of Loyalty"] I think that Reagan's moment of brilliance was leaving Paul Volcker at the Federal Reserve (who was initially appointed by Jimmy Carter, by the way). I don't think that Volcker gets enough credit for fixing our economy - especially given the hard decisions he had to make.

    Hope all is well with you and yours, SaturnNeptune, it's been a while.
    BiR
     
  15. Aaron

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    You must be a Socialist, Jihadist or in other ways favor despotism. They miss him as well.
     
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    No, neither. I just remember what it was like trying to work as a machinist here in Houston during the 1980s. It would be difficult to find one that supported or even liked Reagan. I worked with an Inspector at a plant who celebrated the day of Reagan's death every year. He celebrated it openly. I thought that was wrong and did not participate. This does however show the overall attitude in some of the machine shops in Houston during this time.
     
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    I agree to a certain extent. Carter was in over his head from the beginning and left us with the largest misery index I suppose since FDR. Johnson is responsible for using the so-called Gulf of Tonkin incident to justify full scale involvement in Viet Nam. Of course democrat presidents often use war to bring us out of recession/depression: Roosevelt in WWII, Truman in Korea. One thing in Johnson's favor, in my opinion, is that he was enough of a man to admit his failure as a president and did not stand for reelection.

    That being said Obama makes Carter look competent and presidential. When the election results in 2008 showed Obama the winner he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Since then all he has done is run around the country lecturing his adoring, or should I say worshipful, audience. The man is utterly incompetent and lazy, has slopped at the government trough all his adult life, and the country will be fortunate to survive him and the democrat/leftist cabal of which he is the titular head.
     
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    Are you saying that aLL MACHINISTS are sick in the head. I resent that. I know some machinists who were quite normal. They were Republicans!
     
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    What do you mean he "celebrated" Exactally what he did, what he required? ect.
     
  20. Aaron

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    You mean union machinist. Definitely a Socialist like yourself.
     

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