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Discussion in 'News / Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Dec 19, 2012.
While I agree with the message of that cartoon, there's also this that I agree with even more .......
The problem with mental illness isn't the people that have it. It's the people who think it is politically incorrect to label them as such.
I don't know who this guy is but I agree with him. I grew up in the south just as he did and there wasn't people shooting each other.
We don't shoot each other up here, either. Not compared to how them coastal cities pile up the bodies.
Plus, in most of those cities, it is almost impossible to become a new legal handgun owner. Have you any idea what it takes to become a gun owner in Massachusetts ? New York ?
Yet the tiny state of Massachusetts has 237 places where you can get free mental health care.
Here is a searchable registry of "pay what you can afford" health care centers. There are most likely several in your area.
The cartoon is just not true.
And, just in case this might be some ill-informed political grandstanding on children's graves, this Lanza kid was a millionare. He had access to mental health care.
We need to get our priorities straighten out
Yep. About $135/hour for a psychologist; a thousand or more for an assault rifle + $600 in federal license. It doesn't take long for the good ( :laugh doctors to catch up with the alternative, does it? If it comes down to take-a-few-lives-then-mine-too, it may not be cosidered economically advantageous to pay $1500 to $2000 to a doctor that might talk the lunatic out of it rather than to pay about the same for the paraphernalia to go on and do it without that detour.
Disagree with the OP cartoon for many reasons.
1) It isn't that easy for a sane, honest person to legally obtain a firearm. Sure, I can walk into any gun store and look around all I want. I'd better have my "ducks in a row" if I want to leave legally carrying my purchase.
2) That towering example of mental health aid should be an almost empty field instead. The closing of Dix Hospital in Raleigh NC is an example. Instead of keeping it open to help supply beds for those who should be confined, the alternative seems to be give out handfulls of pills instead.
3) Outpatient treatment does not appear to be as effective (certain types of illness) as we are led to believe. Far too often, in the aftermath of tragic events, the news reports that John Doe stopped taking his medications.
4) The cartoon should have also protrayed how easy it is to illegally obtain a firearm. How many criminals are going to walk into that gunshop door? If they don't have dollars or drugs to trade they may break down the backdoor instead of the gunshop. Or rob homes, and other legal sources of same. If all else fails, kill a cop and take his.
Few seem to be talking about doing anything material about the gun blackmarket. At most, it's about like the war on drugs. We can't close our borders to people coming in illegally. We can't close our borders to stop the drug traffic. Why should I think it will be any different with firearms?
Common sense seems to have disappeared and has been replaced with cartoons. May God have mercy on us all.
I agree! Your points show us our government at work. It is lacking. It looks as if the government does not wish to stop any of the above, just try and control it to a point that they are happy with.
As I've said if the police know where the drugs houses are, the places that the illegal folks are, why not go in and close them up? It looks as if there are to many loop holes in our law, to much gray area.