Weight loss

Hi Gina,
Have you ever heard of the Weigh Down Workshop? It's a christian weight loss program, and more too. It's discipleship, it's learning about our relationship with God. it has been really good, I've lost 24 pounds so far, and haven't dieted once in the program. Diets are man made rules for our food to obey, well you can make your food obey, but man made ruls aren't for us, believe it or not the Bible says a lot more then I ever thought on this subject.

Here take a look,

http://www.wdworkshop.com

 

Hello Gina, Katie and everyone,

I want to caution you about being involved with Gwen Shamblin and the Weigh down workshop. This is not a Christian organization. As a matter of fact, Gwen is a wolf in sheep's clothing that is is along the lines of the Jehovah Witnesses. You need to know that Gwen does not belieive in the trinity or the diety of Jesus Christ. Further, she has deceptively used the WDW to infiltrate traditional main line denominations (which she refers to as apostate and the whore of Babylon) and teach them that the gospel taught within their churches is unbiblical and apostacy. Her and her husband has begaun a new church in Tennessee and are now trying to recruit WDW participants into the new church that teaches that Jesus was not God but created by God the Father, and that the trinity is a false teaching. If you don't beleive me, go to her own website with the link Katie posted and click on FAQs. At the bottom of the page, you will find her teachings on the trinity and the diety of Jesus. She is shameless and heretical and I would discourage any Bible beleiving Christian from being involved in her cult in any way possible.

Joseph

[ June 24, 2001: Message edited by: JBotwinick ]

 

My response is in general discussions.

 

http://www.equip.org/free/DS570.htm
http://www.midwestoutreach.org/gwen2.htm
http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/s35.html
http://www.sbclife.org/Articles/2000/11/Sla7.asp
http://www.hoyweb.com/faq/WDW.htm

 

Have you ever heard of Oxycise? You may have seen it advertised on an infomercial. I started doing it less than 3 weeks ago and have lost 2 1/4 inches off of my waist. I had 4 kids in less than 6 years and have been wanting to lose weight for some time.

Anyway, Oxycise is easy once you get the hang of it and it's not very time-consuming. If you want to know more about it, feel free to ask.

Lucy

 

4xblessed, what is that? how is it done?
Do those inches equal pounds lost? Or is it just toned muscles?

[ June 25, 2001: Message edited by: katie ]

 

I babysit in the summer, so I don't have as much time for researech as I'd like too. But I have been spending a little time on this.

And I'm getting madder by the moment.

 

Welcome to the Ladies Forum of the BB, Lucy! Tell us more about Oxycise.

 

I just wanted to share that after I had my son I gained and it really depressed me. I was talking to a christian friend and she advised me to use Metabolife/metabolite, she said it really worked for her and it is all natural so I tried it and it really worked for me. You don't skip meals, you simply take two pills one hour before each meal and it decreases your desire to eat as much, it actually makes you feel full and it gives you energy as well. Along with that pill I also used Slim Fast, but that in itself would not work for me the only reason I use slim fast is to help curve my chocolate cravings and that really helped.

Anyway, long story short, in the time span of about two months, actually shorter time than that, I lost over 30 pounds and went from size 18 to a size 12. Now my problem is all my clothes are too big but I suppose thats a good problem to have

To any of you ladies wanting to loose, I say blessings to you on doing so....and remember, no matter how many pounds you currently have you are beautiful because you are a product of God!!!!

-dar

 

Hello,

I would like to say some things about the Weigh Down Workshop. The founder is not a JW she is from the Church of Christ and I in no way agree with her personal beliefs. But the program itself is really Bible based. The program teaches you to eat only when you have a hunger pain or a growl and then to stop eating when you are satisfied.

It teaches you to run to the Lord and the Bible in between hungers when your head is telling you that you are hungry and not your stomach.

I have lost 50 pounds in 24 weeks through this program. I have drawn closer to the Lord in this time than I ever have been.

As far as weight is concerned this program has drawn me closer to the Lord because my heart and mind have changed and the weight just came off as a result.
This program really does work it focuses on your relationship with the Lord and not on yourself or food.

But I would like some opinions about this program. I in no way endorse Gwen's personal beliefs. She does not believe in the trinity or eternal security. Do you think it is ok to be involved in this program just on a private basis by listening to her tapes and watching her videos by myself or with an online buddy without permoting it to others that they may be led astray.

I am not joining her church and I don't agree with her beliefs but I was in the program before the contraversy came out. But the program has drawn me closer to the Lord and I have lost weight throught it.

Just looking for some feed back concerning this program.

Thank you.
Cyndi

 

Cyndi,

Hi there and welcome to the Baptist Board. I appreciate your post but would like to clear up three things with you:

1. Her and her husband are no longer members of the Church of Christ. They have started a new church called "Remnant Fellowship" which teaches these false doctrines.

2. She has called mainline denominations who teach the trinity and the diety of Christ apostate churches and admits to using the weigh down workshop as a back door to bring people out of the "apostate" churches and into her new church. She is trying to fleece the church.

3. Although she does not officially allign herself with the JWs, her beliefs on the trinity, diety of Christ, and works salvation closer resemble their beliefs than they do Christianity.

If you would like more information, check out the links posted above. You can choose to do what you want, but I think it is dangerous to deal with a cult leader who is trying to fleece the flock by opening yourself to her teachings.

Joseph

 

Joseph,

Thank you for your insights. I have seen most of these sights. I did not realize what she was trying to do as far as starting a church and leading others astray.

But I have used her program for years and I have lost alot of weight through it and it has drawn me closer to my Lord. I have in no way been led astray by her program but I in no way agree with any of her own personal beliefs.

I would assume that you think it is wrong to use her program. The program is really based on the Word of God.

If you would discourage others from using this program then what Biblically based program would you point them to.

I did use this program and it really did show me how God created me and that I should listen to His guidelines and run to Him and not the food. It was all about my relationship with the Lord and not my relationship with the food or my own selfish desires.

So if you think I should take a Biblical stand against this program where should I go for support and Biblical weight loss.

Feel free to email me if you want to.

I look forward to your response.

Cyndi

 

Cyndi,
I have been in weigh down workshop for 8 weeks now. I have lost 24 pounds so far.
Her weight loss method is pretty good. I disagree with some of it though, she does not talk about nutrition at all.

But in going back through the video tapes, I have found for myself that she is twisting scripture, trying to make it fit her program. Trying to say her program is in the bible.
As much as I want to loose weight, I don't think I want anything to do with scripture twisting.
When she says she doesn't believe in the Trinity, which is the very nature of God, she changes who in her opinion God is, that means she is not talking about the God of the Bible, but a god of her own making. A god who does not exsist.
Here we are at a junction, what do we choose?
We can continue to go and do what we want, like follow someone who twists scripture, and doesn't believe Jesus is who He is, or we can go with God, and get out now.
You can still use the eat less, only when you are truely hungry, daily seeking your relationship with God, and filling with Him instead of food. I would add a good nutritional balance, which Gwen doesn't believe in. She may believe it is ok to eat fat, but not if you want a healthy heart. I am not a fanatic about fat free, but I insist on low fat, there is too much high colesterol and heart disease in my family.
You should do a little reading up on what Gwen really believes. It will amaze you.

 

Thank you to all of you have responded to my concerns about the WDW. I personally think that I should not be involved in the program. The reason is simple I don't agree with the founders Biblical beliefs and it could lead either me or someone else astray.
Also, I should take a strong stand for my own personal beliefs and not allow others to think I would agree with this beliefs that are contraray to the Word of God.

But I keep thinking that the principles in the program have helped me and I have lost alot of weight and I have drawn closer to the Lord from using this program.

My thoughts on this subject is this....I should in no way support the program by giving it my money or my time by going to classes here in my own area or even on the internet. But I would like to use the program for my own support in the privacy or my own home. I do believe in the trinity and that God is a superior being that can do anything He is not lowered down to the likeness of man in anyway. He is the all knowing and all powerful and there is nothing too hard for Him.

I don't necessarily agree with this subject of nurtrition. My body craves for what it needs. I don't consistently eat the same things over and over. If I am concentrating on my relationship with my Lord then He is changing my mind and my heart. I am no longer thinking about food or myself I am thinking about Him.

Do you think it is wrong for me to use the part of this program that I can use in the privacy of my own home and apply the Biblical principles from the Word of God without twisting them to say what we want them to say but to see the Bible for what it really says????

That is really how I want to use this program and my Bible in order to help me overcome this stronghold. For the Bible is the answer to all problems no matter how big or small and no matter how little or how big they may have a grip on me.

I think I can use both but without support her or the program and seeking the Word of God and applying the truths therein for what it really says not for what Gwen is trying to make it say.

I welcome your comments.

God bless you all.
Cyndi

 

Cyndi,

I am glad you asked. I just finished a Baptist diet curriculum that was started, I beleive by First Baptist in Houston, Texas. It is very scripturally sound in its Bible study and I lost somewhere around 25 pounds. It is called "First Place" which is short for "Putting Jesus First Place".

Check it out,

Joseph

 

Joseph,
Thanks for pointing this stuff out. I had a bunch of ladies in my church use the weigh down work shop. I recently have had a rash of "Trinity" belief problems in my church. I have had to preach several sermons on this subject. I have been wondering where this came from from because I had some ladies REALLY messed up on their "Trinity" doctrine suddenly. NOW I KNOW THE SOURCE! SOme have even went to others ladies in my church with false teaching. I have been in a quandry!

Now I can attack the source. Thank you for revealing this. I plan to paste a lot of this stuff and pursue reversing this Un-Gody mess this has started in my church.

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

btw-Many of those ladies have put the weight
back on!
-Pastor Bob

 

Thank you for your responses.

I will check out first place. I was just looking for another program that attacks weight in the same way. I don't agree with anything the founder believes and have not been led astray with her beliefs. Her views on the trinity and eternal security are not in the program. But it is this big black cloud that surrounds the program.

There was another post from a pastor that had trinity problems in his church and I really feel for that church. But I have been through the WD program several times and it is put together for any denomination Gwen's personal beliefs do not come to play.
Those kind of things many times come from others who particpate in the program and also from researching the founders beliefs.

When you look at her website she makes it sound so truthful that you would want to believe it. Of course, that is the devil being sly as ever getting into the life of the believer.

Thank you for your support and speaking out against this program.

We also had this program in our church but since all the contraversy we dropped it. But I have been doing it privately and my pastor knows about it. But I have not been led astray because the program draws you to the Lord and not to yourself or the food.

But the only people in our church who gained their weight back were the ones who have gone off the program. There are only two of us now who are still doing the program on our own and we have not gained our weight back.

I am very interested in this other program and I think I really need to take a stand against the WDW program. My husband is a leader in the church and nobody really knows that I am doing this and I think it is the Lord telling me that I have the principles now move on and take your Bible with you. My God is big enough to conquer any stronghold in my life. The Bible is the answer to all problems I don't need this program any longer to help me. I have the principles in it that really help. But I am not going to be associated with it any longer.

But the theory behind it all to wait for real hunger and stop at satisfied and don't eat again till hunger comes really does work. Run to the Lord and allow Him to fill you and satisfy you really makes alot of sense and that is what I learned through all of this. A trinity issue never even entered my mind. But I am going to keep running to the Lord and put Him first above all things.

Thank you for your input.

Cyndi

 

Cyndi,
Glad you have given it a lot of thought.
I also plan on using the basics, of eating less, only what my stomach needs, and the daily seeking God through bible reading and prayer on the subject of my eating. Be really careful in trying to apply scripture like Gwen does, because those are the ones she has taken put of context. I would focus on what God says about disobedience to us as christians. I do believe that overeating is disobedience and therefore sin. Thats where my focus will be.