First of all, this is a fellowship forum, so we are not going to debate. This is strictly for information. Dr. Bob just wrote that all the original Baptist missionaries were Calvinists. I didn't want to say anything on his wonderful thread about his planned missions trip, thus this thread. On another thread, someone else made the oft-asserted statement that William Carey was a Calvinist. My question is, has anyone proven this? I know that Carey was ostensibly a Fullerite, but is there anything in his writings to prove he was a five point Calvinist? I particularly wonder if Adoniram Judson was really a Calvinist. Judson was the first Baptist foreign missionary from America. He was originally Congregational, then became Baptist on board ship on the way to India through his own Bible study. I understand that mnany Congregationalists were not Calvinists. I have the thick biography by his son (sent to me some years ago by a BB friend :flower, and I don't remember anything from that about his being a Calvinist. So please help me out here. Show me from the writings of Carey and Judson that they were Calvinists, that this is not simply an assumption. I promise not to argue.