Whaddya mean, 'America is not a Christian nation'?

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  1. Jedi Knight

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    Seems clear cut to me: The principals of Christian character is at the roots of our founding documents and the spirit from which our nation rose... However our government is not the leader of any religion. The religious expression of our people originate within the individual according to his own conviction and affiliates as each sees fit to a larger body of believers.

    The moslems have for a long time held hostilities against Christians in general and bitterness against the Papal influence in Europe.... remembering the Crusades. The US never was part of that conflict and this article establishes that we were not of that breed of Nations who in the name of Christian carried out their hostilities against musslems.. Our laws do not prevent those of religions other than Christianity from living in our land, nor from their expressions of worship. Our laws do not support hostilities against people of any religion.
     
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    I posted the following paragraph on another forum. With a few changes [shown in brackets] I believe it represent much of the thought of America today.

    "Modern man [American] is not markedly different from ancient man, though his gods may be. He is certainly [perhaps] more elegant in defining his theology or lack therof. Science and technology are [his] popular modern gods. Evolution, a pseudo science, is also a popular god [religion] of the day though in reality many pagan religions espoused some primitive form of evolution. Humanism, the idea that man is sufficient unto himself and therefore claiming to be atheistic, is another currently popular god, very closely related to the gods of evolution, science, and technology. Environmentalism, a modern form of pantheism, is the god of many [Americans] and appears to be rapidly gaining new adherents. Some, thinking themselves more learned or sophisticated, fall back to the position of agnosticism or ‘know nothing’ [or could care less]. Strangely some of those [Americans] who perceive themselves to be most learned and sophisticated have aligned themselves with the most unlearned and embraced the god [religion] of atheism. Yet modern man [Americans] with all the advances that have been made in science, in medicine, in the quality of life, is still faced with the same dilemma that man has historically faced, the inevitability of death and the unknown that lies beyond."

    There is one answer to that dilemma, that unknown, and it is found only in the Special Revelation of GOD, the Bible.

    It appears that many Americans deliberately reject the teaching of that Special Revelation choosing instead the meanderings of the unbelieving mind. It is for these reasons that I ask:

    1. Would a Christian nation slaughter fifty million [50,000,000] of its unborn children?

    2. Would a Christian nation elect a rabid proponent of the slaughter of the unborn and just born children as president of the United States?

    3. Would a Christian nation affirm that the perverted sexual acts of man on man or woman on woman are an acceptable lifestyle?

    4. Would a Christian nation put the welfare of animals above the welfare of its people?
     
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    ==No, a Christian nation would not do that or allow that.

    ==No, a Christian nation would not do that or allow that.

    ==No, a Christian nation would not do that or allow that.


    ==No, a Christian nation would not do that or allow that.

    Even though the idea of a "Christian nation" is not Biblical your questions make some very good points. America has lost her way. America is no longer one nation under God.

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    I agree that the term Christian nation is a misnomer. I believe it is correct to state that a nation consists of a Christian majority. Unfortunately I agree that America has lost her way and it breaks my heart, especially when i think of my children and grandchildren.
     
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    Among the many historical proofs included in the bill were the following:

    * Whereas in 1777, Congress, facing a national shortage of '"Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches," announced that they "desired to have a Bible printed under their care and by their encouragement" and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported;

    * Whereas in 1782, Congress pursued a plan to print a Bible that would be "a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools' and therefore approved the production of the first English language Bible printed in America that contained the congressional endorsement that 'the United States in Congress assembled … recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States";

    * Whereas the 1783 Treaty of Paris that officially ended the Revolution and established America as an independent [nation] begins with the appellation "In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity";

    * Whereas in 1795, during construction of the Capitol, a practice was instituted whereby "public worship is now regularly administered at the Capitol, every Sunday morning, at 11 o'clock";

    * Whereas in 1789, Congress, in the midst of framing the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment, passed the first federal law touching education, declaring, "Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged";

    * Whereas by 1867, the church at the Capitol was the largest church in Washington, D.C., with up to 2,000 people a week attending Sunday service in the Hall of the House;

    * Whereas in 1853, the United States Senate declared that the Founding Fathers "had no fear or jealousy of religion itself, nor did they wish to see us an irreligious people. … They did not intend to spread over all the public authorities and the whole public action of the nation the dead and revolting spectacle of atheistical apathy";

    * Whereas in 1854, the United States House of Representatives declared "It [religion] must be considered as the foundation on which the whole structure rests. … Christianity, in its general principles, is the great conservative element on which we must rely for the purity and permanence of free institutions";

    * Whereas President John Adams, one of only 2 signers of the Bill of Rights and First Amendment, declared "As the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him";

    * Whereas President Andrew Jackson declared that the Bible "is the rock on which our Republic rests";

    * Whereas President Franklin D. Roosevelt not only led the Nation in a six-minute prayer during D-Day on June 6, 1944, but he also declared, "If we will not prepare to give all that we have and all that we are to preserve Christian civilization in our land, we shall go to destruction";

    * Whereas President Dwight D. Eisenhower declared, "Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first, the most basic, expression of Americanism. Thus, the Founding Fathers of America saw it, and thus with God's help, it will continue to be," in a declaration later repeated with approval by President Gerald Ford;

    * Whereas the United States Supreme Court has declared throughout the course of our Nation's history that the United States is "a Christian country," "a Christian nation," "a Christian people," "a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being," and that "we cannot read into the Bill of Rights a philosophy of hostility to religion"
     
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    McIntyre said Americans don't know, for example, that even Ben Franklin, who "wasn't known as the most spiritual of the Founding Fathers," nonetheless looked to God as the only hope for our country:

    "Ben Franklin," McIntyre said, "stood up and called the assembly of delegates to prayer, because, he said, 'Scripture teaches us that if a sparrow can't fall to the ground without his notice, is it likely that an empire will rise without his aid?' And if we don't first go to prayer, he said, 'We'll be no more successful then the builders of Babel.'"
     

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