Well since we have pretty well exhausted the wine, (no jokes here :laugh: ) and we all know who is on which side, can we discuss something else? Say, Coffee. To be more specific, caffeine. I would bet that the moderation advocates would have no problems with drinking caffeine. But what about the ones that are not moderation advocates? Caffeine is a drug. Do you drink Coffee? If so, you are putting a mind altering drug into your system. I have had teens tell me that it is wrong to drink Coffee, because of this reason... If I drink it, am I being a stumblingblock to them? And if someones says that drinking a beer is a sin because it has a drug (alcohol) in it, wouldn't that person be hypocritical to then pour a cup of coffee with a drug in it? (caffeine) And how many of us Baptists are truly addicted to it? Do You need it to get going in the morning? Do you need it because without it you get headaches? So are we ready to get rid of the coffee at church?