What about the IFB Baptist group?

This seems to be a BB definition. I've seen it as a sticky in the Translations/Versions page.

I'm well aware of the textual differences. IMO, rejecting every version except the KJV is, by definition, King James Only. It doesn't matter the reasoning behind the policy. I think you are making a distinction without a difference.

 

The definitions were framed that way by well-informed people for a reason.

I don't use mv's except occasionally for comparison. I reject them for the same reason the website said. I would be greatly insulted and offended if you put me in the same category as KJVO's. However, I think you should not derail this thread, and start a thread in the versions forum on "What is KJVOism? You need to find out before you falsely accuse people.

 

Oh Lord, you forgot playing cards and long hair!

 

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Yes, how about these prime examples of such "legalism" and "Pharisaism":

Proceedings of the 1689 London Baptist Assembly:

Charles Spurgeon, Storm Signals:

 

First, get it right... It is not "community church" ------------------it is "metropolitan church."



Third, the IFB churches (and individuals who have posted publicly what they have posted publicly on the web are not my doing, nor my churches doing. They are what they are and I am not the only one testifying against them.

That is the nature of INDEPENDENT... What's so hard about that other than the fact that you have chosen to be offended by the actions of others who carry the same means of identifying themselves as you.

 

According to you, you can find 20 web sites that slander IFB churches. I can find 20 that show that Community Churches support gay pastors. Therefore all Community Churches, including Sojourn Community Church, support and have gay pastors.

Yes, I do know you have gay pastors, by using the same logic that you use to slander IFB churches. I'm just playing by your rules. You are the one that said being able to cite 20 web sites makes the truth.

You have chosen to be offended by the actions of others who carry the same means of identifying themselves as you (Community Church).

 

Okay, I am confused. Maybe I am missing something. I went through the website that was listed in this thread and I agree that it is a incredibly misguided at best (there IS some truth that it presents albeit very poorly). Where I am confused though is that while it claims to be IFB and it lists the IFB top 1000 sites, I did not see anywhere that said it was presented or endorsed by any specific church or churches. It actually appeared to be the work of an individual or at most a group of individuals and not part of any IFB church. Yet this website that some person (not church) put up is being used as proof positive that ALL (at least that is how it is coming across) IFB churches are like this. I am currently in a SBC church. I have been involved with IFB churches in the past, I went to a (very) small IFB Bible college in East Peoria IL. I have seen some IFB churches that are very much like that website. I have also seen and been part of IFB churches that would soundly denounce that website and have been filled with incredibly loving, rock solid Christians. The bottom line is that if we are honest there are extreme fringes in any denomination and it seems that they are the ones that get the most press, but the reality is that most IFB churchs are not that way and it is wrong to continue to blanket the whole group based on a website that doesn't even appear to be endorsed by any church. If I posted a website like that and claimed it was representative of the SBC does that in fact make it representative of the SBC? Or if I posted a website like that and claimed it was representative of any other denomination or group does that in fact make it true? Or is the truth that I as an individual posted my individual opinions and then trying to get recognition claimed some type of affiliation? I guarantee that there are IFB churchs that would embrace this website, I also guarantee that there are those that would oppose it while holding to the bits of truth that are there. You simply CANNOT issue a blanket statement against all IFBS because of this website. Doing so makes you an accuser of brethren that you don't even know.

 

Tom, unfortunately I can give you one right now that is about as kookie as you can get in Eastern Pennsylvania.....I will add to the list that girls cant wear sandals to picnics & camp events because the toes are exposed. Try looking at schools like The Ambassador Bible College in the Carolinas also loopie With Dr. Ron Comfort for starters. So whats that prove, that they do exist.

 

I'm not associating you with these IFB churches. It's been my experience that legalism is a common thread with IFB churches. BTW, I'm currently attending an IFB church. The only traits I've seen (so far) is no alcohol, no men shall have long hair, and KJV preferred.

I might as well ask you to please list the IFB churches I've attended that don't hold to these positions.

 

Is this not precisely what I said in far fewer words?

 

Dude, you really have a thing for gay pastors, dontcha... :thumbsup:

 

Here is my first post:

And, you dislike me enough to attack, attack, attack... Thanks for proving my point multiple times over.

And again, as I asked above:

DO YOU DISAVOW YOURSELF OF THE IFB WHO ARE REPRESENTED BY THE SITE I POSTED?

Or, are they your brothers and sisters in the faith, while you rip me up?