What are your thoughts on this statement

Hmmm, going to have to give some thought to that- LOL! Actually, it's pretty descriptive.

 

I have heard my pastor express the hope that "God will show up and show out" a few times at the start of a service. I have always thought the phrase was a little silly, but I understand what he is trying to say and agree with the thought.

I think some of the folks here may be taking this phrase a bit too literal. The heart behind that silly phrase is that the Holy Spirit will have an impact on those in the service. I see nothing wrong with that.

 

I read some concerns about it sounding too "charismatic".

Goodness...give me a break. :laugh:

I'm no charismatic, but I have said things like that after some services at my church. Its a wonderful thing when that happens, and thats a great way to say it.

God certainly did "show up" on the day of pentecost, did He not?

God certainly "showed up" 3 days after the crucifiction, didnt He?

God certainly "showed up" when Lazurus walked out of that tomb, didnt He?

We all know that some of our Baptist services are pretty much sort of "ordinary", while other times many people are impacted positively in very outstanding, and sometimes emotional ways. And we all know that God is present any time 2 or more are gathered in His name.

But sometimes when lives are changed dramatically whats wrong with saying "God really showed up today, didnt He?"....or something like that.


Nothing wrong with that at all in my book.

 

Sorry, I overlooked spell check highlighting your name. I actually like Mexdeaf better, my wife was born in Mexico. Ole'

 

Except it implies that when nothing dramatic happens, God doesn't show up.

God shows up every time...

And to only say that when something dramatic happens conditions our people to want bigger and better.. and when nothing happens.. we hear statements like "I didn't get anything out of service today."...

WEll... we don't go to church to GET.. we go to GIVE!...

The statement can breed a selfish, greedy church that only thinks about themselves.

 

I go to get what God gives in return for my giving him the time, tithe and talents I can. God always shows up, at least we hope he does, but there are distinct times God shows off in ways far better than when he just showed up

 

I dont think it implies that at all. All christians understand that...

1) God lives inside them, and all other christians...whether something "big" happens or not.

2) And where 2 or 3 are gathered in His name, God is in the midst.

We all know that. All christians know those truths and live in the goodness of those truths.

To say that "God really SHOWED UP tonight" is just a way of acknowledging that during this particular gathering we were blessed with one of those really *special* services, that dont always occur.

For me this is a non-issue.

 

I understand "showed up", though I'm not a fan of it (which absolutely does NOT mean that I've never been in a church service where I've felt an overwhelming presence of the Lord).

"Showed off" is a proud statement. I don't like it at all.

I was in one church service where the preacher, who used phrases like the one in the OP, was all screaming and stomping and no one was enjoying it but him---it was all in the flesh. Then he started dancing around. Then he said (yelled), "If David can do it, so can I!"

It was the most horrible display I have ever seen in a church. Just awful!

And I like loud preaching. Or quiet preaching. I just like preaching (particularly in English. LOL!), so long as it is preaching and not a proud, fleshly display.

 

God doesn't "show up." He is omnipresent.

God doesn't "show off"--the difference in God's "movement" from one time to the next has to do with our receptiveness, willingness to listen, willingness to repent, etc.

The "show up and show out" makes God sound like a Broadway performer...which He most certainly is not.

 

Never said he wasn't, so stop with the misrepresentations allready.

A manifestation of the presence of God is "showing up". Maybe you don't understand that?

Beg to disagree. God shows off everytime he saves, delivers etc.

Well, Philipians 1:6 was written way before Broadway ever existed.

I think you just like to argue.

 

Reminds me of a bib my daughter had as a baby that said, "When God made me He was just showing off!" I always thought the bib was cute, never put a lot of deep theological thought into it though. Don't know that I would use the phrase mentioned in the OP in a service, but I wouldn't be offended if I heard it used.

 

What really gets to me is how easily so many are offended. It's like they looking for it.:type:

 

I agree with this

 

If someone had said this in a conversation, I think I would have had gone to find someone else to talk to. Ugh.

 

Why? because they spoke of the marvellous things God was doing? It just doesn't make sense to be so dogmatic about a simple phrase.

I'm not calling you anything, but I can see where some one might bring up a name or two to call some one in this case.

I believe I would be curious enough to hear them out. If for no other reason than to hear something great God has done, to see if that person is charismatic or not.:type:

 

I sat under a SBC pastor who used the phrase "God really showed up and showed out today didn't He? Amen!" about once a month. I wonder if it's one of those cliches they learn in seminary, along with the joke about children baptizing kittens you may hear from about ten different Baptist preachers in your lifetime. I don't pick up on any sort of sinister tone from the phrase, but it is one of those catchy little one-liners that makes for good t-shirt slogans and post-benediction fuzzy feel-goods from the pastor.

 

What gets me is the ones who object to this phrase are probably likely to be those you see and hear jumping up and screaming for their favorite sports team and won't budge when somebody gets excited about the Lord.

 

What really gets me is how many times you have said "what really gets (to) me".:laugh: