Reading over the board the last few days I've come to realize that many of us came from a background that many would call "independent" and "fundamental". This quote from one of John of Japan's posts in another thread sums up the starting postion of this group quite well: And if the answer to that question was yes, you were in! You were accepted as part of the group and considered to have your theological hat on correctly. But now, those things don't seem to be enough. "Independent" seems to mean one can't cooperate with another denom (was it always this way?) and "fundamental" seems to mean the men better wear a suit on Sunday and and the women a dress (standards replacing theology?). Being as old as I am, I can actually remember days when folks didn't argue over stuff like that. When Curtis Hutson (then editor of the Sword of the Lord) came and preached at the Free Will Baptist Church my family attended and was accepted and accepted us in return despite the distinct leaning of the church away from "once saved always saved". It wasn't that standards weren't discussed, just they weren't put ahead of the fellowship and cooperation between different churches. (FreeWill churches are technically independent or were at that time though there is a national organization) But somewhere between Curtis Hutson visit to that church and the present something changed greatly, from the pages of the Sword of the Lord to the thread of the BB. There is great animosity on all sides toward those who have different views, whether it be over standards or doctrine. What has caused this? Or am I just not old enough to have recognized it happening in my youth? What has caused so many here who still hold to the precept's in the above quote to leave the IFB flavor of Baptist for say the SBC flavor?