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Discussion in 'Politics' started by JustChristian, Aug 31, 2008.
Almost nothing. Instead he added the murder of innocent Iraqis in a war of aggression.
while i agree that Bush should have / could have done things differently with the war...
George W. Bush Signs Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act in 2003
This, "I don't want them punished with a baby," is perhaps the most self-revelatory statement Barack Obama has uttered in public since he began his campaign for the Presidency. It goes far beyond Bill Clinton's, "Let's keep abortion safe, legal and rare." It goes far beyond the "I personally object, but must allow choice in a pluralistic society" stand of both John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.
Because it goes to the personal. It goes to the extent of wholehearted approval of killing one's own grandchildren if they happen to have been conceived inconveniently.
Yep, he did, right before he gave abortion Clinics more money... You sure he's on our side?
no, i do not think bush is on our side....really and truly i don't think anyone in politics are on our side.:BangHead:
He did what he could do as 1/3 part of the government...he appointed 2 pro life supreme court judges.
Republicans are noticeably quite about this post. If it was a Democrat that signed it, you can be assured that the Republicans on this board would be shouting from the rooftops about it.
Bush is not a conservative any more than McCain is.
I edited it to say Republicans. Lost my head for a second, just a typo.:laugh:
Webdog has it right.
The argument that professing Christians use to justify their support for pro-abortion candidates that the Republicans have not outlawed abortion is really just a poor excuse and a lame argument. First off, not every Republican is pro-life, which is why it is important to nominate pro-life candidates. Secondly, the outlawing of abortion will look like this: (1) Once there is at least a 5-4 majority of justices that would likely overturn R v. W, it will be brought before the S.C., (2) after it is overturned, it will be up to the individual states to come up with pro-life laws, (3) and at that time, the battle will be at the state level, which is why it is also important to elect pro-life state officials. (4) This process can take a very, very long time - generations, in fact, because SC justices (and the lower-court judges) are there for life, so the turnover of justices moves at a snail's pace.
Now all of you professing Christians who are supporting Obama, please consider this: We are very, very close to having a majority pro-life Supreme Court. Electing Obama will halt this progress and maybe even cause it to regress (if Scalia were to retire). It has taken years to get to this point. And I realize that once R v. W is overturned, that the battle goes to the states and even more work will need to be done. I think of Wilberforce who fought his whole life to outlaw the slave trade. Some fights take generations to win, and giving up ground will cause the fight to go on further. We need perseverance and faithfulness in order to win this battle against evil.
Bush did several things, like the PBA ban and appointing some conservative justices. He did not do nearly enough. He did not add the murder of innocent Iraqis. That's simply an uninformed argument made out of desperation.
But more important, and perhaps you were not aware of this, but Bush isn't running this year. So to try to bring him into it is senseless, it seems to me.
This is a funny post. You could not even stay on the topic of your own subject line in your own opening post. :BangHead: :tonofbricks:
Cetainly not funny haha. It is a sad a twisted frame of mind.
As a member of this country's armed forces, I would like more clarification on this statement, please.
You have claimed I'm a murderer; please prove it.
As a Christian I don’t agree with any type of Abortion, but in regard to “Bush”, the federal government shouldn’t play a role in any issue regarding abortion and it certainly shouldn’t be up to the President whether it is Bush, McCain or Obama to decide.
I’m amazed at this bickering back and forth.
I’m peeved that I only have two (2) choices in November…Republican or Democrat. The American people have been “trained” that that’s all there is and that’s our only choice. Why is it that other parties can’t have the opportunity to be recognized nationally? Who’s really in charge of this circus…it’s defiantly not “we the people”.
Because family value to include pro-life is the republican parties platform. This is supposedly why the Evangelicals and family oriented American's support this party. I'm just asking what return they have gotten in the past for their support? How do they figure it will be different in Bush' third term (I mean McCain)?
But you didn't bring up the platform. If you meant to talk about the platform then do that.
PBA ban, SCOTUS justices, plus better policies all the eway around.
If you mean McCain then say that. And if you catch yourself making such an obvious mistake, then correct it by deleting it and typing what you mean. This silly notion that McCain will be a third term of Bush is ridiculous. I think overall it will probably be worse since McCain is more moderate, it seems to me.
I am not sure it will be different. Hopefully we will get good justices as we did with Bush, and some more steps in the right direction as we did with Bush. We will get neither of those with Obama.
Heres a question for the OP. What did he (bush)do to promote, insure, and further the murder of babies?
Now if we ask this same question of Obama, we really find something there.
What, you have nails or something for breakfast?
Which is his platform so he was honest about it.
Don't expect an answer , Don.
BTW Thank you for your service.:thumbs:
Reminds me of Vietnam. Baby killer what the phrase back then.
I feel bad that we put our young men and women in this position...