What do they mean?????

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  1. Bro. James Reed

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    Since joining this board in 2002, I have read so many people describe their theology in regard to end times and such. I have not however ever had expanations given as to what they mean.

    Please describe all of the end time theologies.

    Ex. Post-millenium, Pre-millenium, Pre-tribulation, etc, etc, etc...I can't remember all of them.

    I would really like to know what these mean so I can understand just what people are talking about when they use these terms. I suppose I'm just a dumb hick in this area.

    Thanks.

    Bro. James
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    "millenium" refers to the predicted
    1,000 year reign of Jesus on the throne of David

    "pre-" means before
    "post-" means after
    "a-" means not

    There is a set of terms related to
    the relation of the Second Return of Jesus
    with respect to the millenium:

    pre-millennial -
    Jesus will return before the millennium

    post-millennial -
    Jesus will return after the millennium

    a-millennial -
    some people spiritualize the millinniulm,
    treating it as non-physical

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  3. Ed Edwards

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    "tribulation" refers to a period when
    the Lord Jesus shall interfeer in the
    affairs of man once again

    "pre-" means before
    "post-" means after
    "a-" means not

    There is a set of terms related to
    the relation of the rapture/resurrection
    with respect to the tribulation:

    pre-tribulation -
    the rapture/resurrection is before
    the tribulation period

    post-trilbulatin -
    the rapture/resurrection is only
    after the tribulation period

    a-tribulation -
    there is no literal rapture and/or
    no literal resurrection,
    or there is no literal tribulation
    but usually all three. All these
    terms refer to spiritual truths that
    are generaly beyond the comprehension
    of folks like you or i
    (did i say i'm sure not a-trib?

    There are a couple of compromise positions:

    Mid-tribulation -
    a rapture/resurrection will occur
    at the mid-point of the tribulation period

    Pre-wrath -
    Sometime between the mid-tribulation crises
    and the end of the second half of the
    tribulation period the wrath of God
    will be poured out. The rapture/resurrection
    will be before the wrath of God.
     
  4. Bro. James Reed

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    Thank you. I can safely say that you know a lot more about those terms than I did. Thank you brother. Now maybe I can actually communicate with some of the brethren here. ;)
     
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    To Ed's explanation I would add the word "earthly," as in "1000 year earthly reign of Jesus on the throne of David." That should go without saying because David's throne is only an earthly throne, but some have mistakenly tried to make the throne of David some mystical thing that Christ is ruling on now.
     
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    Regarding all those terminologies you will find some such as myself who hold a combination of them. Both the Postmill and Amill camp claim Augustine.

    I would describe my End Times theology as a mixture of post-millennial and a-millennial.
     
  7. Optamill

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    Bro. James Reed,

    An excellent book to help you understand the terms and the positions is "The Meaning of the Millennium," edited by Robert Clouse. Four men who believe in four different views (Amillennialism, Dispensational Premillennialism, Historic Premillennialism, and Postmillennialism) present their understanding, and then the others reply. I highly recommend it
     
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    These are theological debates, like predestination vs. free will, God's sovereignty vs. sin and suffering, etc.

    They generally lead to dead ends after stirring much controversy and confusion.

    Usually, as in dichotomies, they are false debates, based on faulty Western logic systems that deny paradox and simultaneous mutual contradictions.

    God is love. God hates sin.

    Things like that which theologians, who rarely witness to lost souls, love to argue about.

    No offense to Ed Edwards or anyone else who has firm beliefs on eschatological topics. Just want to warn Bro. James Reed not to get tangled up.

    Good night. Sleep tight. Dont let the exegetes bite.

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  9. Dr. Bob

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    Actually, I think that a study of these positions WILL lead to firm believe and grounding the individual in the faith. I would be afraid NOT to study it.

    I've heard the humor of "PAN" millenium - where no matter what WE think, it will all "pan out" in the end!

    And it will, no matter WHAT position we hold.
     

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