What is a Bible to Look Like?

I read this entire thread and haven't seen anything to convince me that packaging is bad.

The opening of it and reading of the Words is what's important.

my goodness.

What I'm more concerned with is dualism and the casual way that people treat the Bibles they do have and that so many don't seem to care to read and understand the contents of the ones they have and that so many in so many parts of the world still don't have one.

 

The sad truth is that we, as the church, have sat idle as the world has developed new ways to attract our youth. What was "hip" in the 50's ain't diddly today.

No, we don't have to become worldly to get their attention, but we do have to step into their world... and a teen's world is not our world. I see this every week in our youth group. The very words that would grip my heart don't have the same effect on them, if any. Theirs is a realm foreign to most of us "mature" Christians.

Yes, we struggle with lust, but not on the level teen guys do. For them, it involves everything... the physical, emotional, hormonal, spiritual... even more than it did for us when we were their age. We saw sex in ads and in late-night TV... they see it constantly, and not in any shaded tones. They are bombarded with it. And the same goes for girls.

Their spiritual landscape is different. They are taught about every religion BUT CHristianity in school. Don't believe me? Just ask a teen... they know about Buddha, Confucious, Allah, new age, Scientology... everything but the name of Christ. They are also taught how to have "safe sex" and told that it is better to wait, but if you can't...

We need every means possible to reach our youth. And these biblezines are a way to do that.

Articles on "hot movies"? Odds are it is about how to choose what you watch wisely, as well as which classics are actually classic, and what movies actually teach a moral lesson.

Article on sex? ABout the consequences of it, and some of what happened in the bible because of it. David and Judah come to mind, as does Abraham.

Makeup? Beauty? Yeah, as well as modesty and not leading others into temptation.

Praise God that someone has taken enough initiative to try to reach our teens where they are. If we wait on them to come to us we will be standing alone for the rest of our lives.

 

You raise some good topics Trotter - as well as truthfulness and honesty. Cheating when everyone seems to be. How to speak to others respectfully.

The fact of the matter is that kids are learning their morality from t.v. and video and movies and their peers. Their parents aren't talking to them generally speaking. How do I know this? I work with kids whose parents for the most part are more concerned with their algebra grades than they are about their spiritual growth.

I'm just talking discipleship issues here - not beginning to address salvation.

 

First, what is ironic is that you ignored my repeated answers of this very question. I'll say it again just for you. It is not the cover. There is nothing on that cover that I haven't done or that my own kids haven't done. It is the concept of packaging a Bible to make it look like a worldly teen magazine (by the publisher's own admission).

Second, I feel no obligation whatsoever to answer any questions on this public internet forum. Nor do I expect anyone else to feel obligated to answer all of my questions. If they choose to do so, that is fine. If they choose not to, that is fine as well.

Lastly, if you have no problem with the bundling of God's Word with the world, that is your prerogative. I do have a problem with it, and I chose to speak out against it. That, also, is my prerogative.

 

What does this possibly have to do with anything? I wear a suit at least six days a week. Does that make me worldly? I think the business world has picked up on the biblical principle of "whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might."

 

You see, I already told you that nothing could say would change your view. The Scriptures were quite relevant.

 

Perhaps you are looking for this scripture from the NCV.. the Revolve Bible

14 You are not the same as those who do not believe. So do not join yourselves to them. Good and bad do not belong together. Light and darkness cannot share together.15 How can Christ and Belial, the devil, have any agreement? What can a believer have together with a nonbeliever? 16 The temple of God cannot have any agreement with idols, and we are the temple of the living God. As God said: "I will live with them and walk with them. And I will be their God, and they will be my people."[a]
17 "Leave those people,
and be separate, says the Lord.
Touch nothing that is unclean,
and I will accept you."

 

as the silence from SFIC is deafening on the subject, I stand by my earlier claim. His outrageous allegations are unproven (and will remain so).

 

rbell, you inspired me to change my avatar!!!

 

Good Jbo!

 

Conversation unfair to Dyslexics

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Dyslexics UNTIE!




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Dyslexics Ruel :thumbs:

 

OK, I'm getting in on this action too!

 

Seems somewhat contradictory to me. The inside says, "don't be like the world," while the outside (by the publisher's own admission) says, "I'm just like the magazines that the world looks at."

 

It is contradictory.

And we know what James says about that...

A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

So have you decided to give us the page number to the misinformation you posted... The Bible says something about bearing false witness also.

So, what's the page number?

 

For everyone just tuning in, SFIC posted the following on post 36...

And we have asked him for the page number in the Biblezine he is referencing, and for some strange and unusual reason, he cannot produce it.

He made an horrible accusation against a product, which in the real world would be libel...
I am not too sure what the law is on message boards, but I am sure the publishers wouldn't like it too much to see their product trashed with lies.

Is he bearing false witness?

So, SFIC, either put up, or shut up....

 

I would hesitate to call SFIC a liar even though it appears that way. Calling him a deliberate liar is something that will be hard to tell.

However, there is a saying that it is possible to be honestly mistaken. But once the truth has been revealed, the person will either cease to be honest, or cease to be mistaken.

Let's give SFIC The benefit of the doubt that he was merely being over zealous and exaggerated or perhaps read that info from a secondary source.
Ok, fine. If the primary source doesn't say so then he was merely honestly mistaken.

But if he continues to be silent we will have to conclude that he is a bearer of false witness.

 

Didn't you read his post? It was on every page.



(actually, I'm still waiting for that data as well. tick-tock, tick-tock....)

 

So I see two possibilities.
1. He made the allegation up

2. Or perhaps he merely read it somewhere else and took it as fact: