What is a Christian?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Ztheberean, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. Ztheberean

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    A true Christian is continuing in the apostles doctrine, these (who are under the teaching of the doctrine of grace) have all things in common, meaning;- they are in one accord (Strongs Greek #3661 - with one mind, and one passion) and are single-minded concerning the faith. (Acts 2:42, 44 & 46) We can only continue in the apostles doctrine, which needs to learned, If God sends a minister unto us. (2Tim 3:14); This is the doctrine that we need to believe in so that our soul could be saved from death (Heb 10:39, 1Tim 4:16); This doctrine is called the doctrine of Christ which we need to know, or we cannot have God’s permission to go on unto perfection ( the born again experience) (Heb 6:1 & 3);

    The Holy Spirit teaches us this doctrine by the comparison of scripture with scripture, so that our faith would stand in the power of God, not with the enticing words of man’s wisdom. (1Cor 2:13, 4-5) This doctrine is known as grace which teaches us how we can deny ungodliness and lusts, so that we could become obedient from our hearts, in this present world. (Titus 2:11-12, Rom 6:17) Without the knowledge of this doctrine, we cannot ever do the will of God (Jn 7:17); This doctrine which needs to be learned, causes divisions, and offences among the brethren (Rom 16:17); When Jesus spoke of this doctrine, people were astonished because they thought it was new (Matt 7:28, 22:33, Mk 1:22, 27, Lk 4:32); This is the only doctrine that needs to be taught because it is godly edifying which is in faith. (1Tim 1:3-4) There is only “ONE” doctrine that we must know, and understand for the saving of our souls. (1Tim 4:16, Heb 10:39)

    This is the same doctrine which causes us to become obedient from our hearts. (Rom 6:17) Do you know this doctrine? Do you understand that it is impossible to learn this doctrine (so that we can believe unto the saving of our soul) by the thousands of instructors ? (or pastors) If so, then you understand that we can only come to learn this doctrine by the FEW fathers who are sent unto us whose speech is not puffed up (with the pride of what men can do) but the power, for the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power. (1Cor 4:15, 17-20)

    These faithful servants who are sent unto us, instruct us to be followers of them. (1 Cor 4:16)

    Just in case you didn’t get this, it means that we are not to go and seek out our own teacher, we have to receive the minister whom God sends unto us, or it cannot be said that we have received Jesus. (Mk 9:37, Lk 9:48) It is these godly men who Christians allow to have rule over their lives, within giving them double honor, because of their labor in the word, and doctrine. (1Tim 5:17) God calls these good ministers because they put the brethren in remembrance of these good things, which nourish them in the words of faith, and of good doctrine wherein they have attained. (1Tim 4:6) These (and those like them) are known by their doctrine, lifestyle, purpose, longsuffering, love, and patience. These suffer persecution (from believers) because they can live godly in Christ Jesus. (2Tim 3:10 & 12) Christians understand that ALL scripture is profitable for correction, reproof, and doctrine so that others can be instructed in righteousness, and be thoroughly complete, and perfect to do all good works. (2Tim 3:16-17) Christians have the mind of Christ so that they can judge all spiritual things, because they have been taught by the Holy Spirit to compare scripture with scripture, believers cannot do this. (1Cor 2:16-15 & 13)

    Christians are called to preach the word instantly, in season, and out of season; with reproofs, exhortations, and rebukes all within longsuffering, and doctrine (2Tim 4:2). Why are they called to do this? Because the time has come when many believers cannot endure this sound doctrine, so instead they go find their own teacher because of lusts, and they turn their ears from hearing this truth unto listening to stories. (4:3-4) This is why we are warned to (learn) the doctrine (of grace) and continue in it, so that we could be saved, and those who hear it. (1Tim 4:16, Heb 10:39) Because Christians have learned sound doctrine, they are able to exhort, to expose, and correct those who come against this truth. (Titus 1:9 & 2:1) Without the knowledge of the doctrine of Christ, we cannot become perfect (meaning, Christian); And those who are not abiding in this doctrine of Christ do not have both the Father and the Son, and these are practicing evil “self-moved” deeds, (rather than God moved deeds), so we are not to receive anyone who does not bring/teach this doctrine. (Heb 6:1, 2Jn 1:9-11)

    Do you think that anyone who says a sinners prayer is instantly born again? I hope not, because this is not biblical. The bible says that we are born again by the word of God (1Pet 1:23, Jn 7:17, Ps 119:50, Jm 1:18) Do you think that we can bring Jesus into “our” hearts? (Rom 10:6-7, Eph 2:8 & 10) No, rather we need to give our wicked hearts to God, and ask Him to create Christ in us through His (God’s) workmanship, so that we could do the good we want to do, because this is God’s gift. (Ez 36:26, Eph 2:10-8) God needs to give us a new heart, and put His spirit within us, so that we can be His people (Jer 24:7, Ez 11:19, 36:26); Christians know that the Holy Spirit is first with them, and then comes within them, when they become His children. (Jn 14:17, Jn 1:12) They also understand and can explain, using the scriptures, that this (becoming a Christian) is a process which does not happen instantly, this is why there is a difference between a Christian and a faithful believer. (Col 1:1, Eph 1:1) Christians have an understanding of the parable of the sower, and the different grounds a believer starts out on, because they know that only those who come upon the “good” ground can bring forth fruit unto perfection, (Lk 8:8 Mk 4:8), meaning the born again Christian experience.

    God does not make ignorant children, so without understanding of all of this, we can’t be converted (God granting us repentance) unto going on to be healed (Christian). (Acts 28:27, Jn 12:40, Mat 13:15, Is 6:10, Mk 4:12) No one can understand the scriptures (unless they ask) God to open their understanding. (Lk 24:45) This is why God sends a meek and patient minister to us to instruct us, and through this instruction process (of grace) God grants repentance so that the truth could be acknowledged, and people can be recovered from the snare of doing the devil’s will “self -willed” rather than being God willed. (2Tim 2:24-26) After repentance is granted unto us, we then can ask God to crucify us with Christ, so that it would no longer be us living, (for self) but Christ in us, (for others) and the life we now live is by the faith of the Son of God who loved us enough to die for us, so that we could ask God to crucify us with Christ,(Gal 2:20); This is how He (God) creates Christ in us through His gift of His workmanship upon us, so that no one could boast (Eph 2:10-8); Without going through this process, we are found as “sinners” (who think they are born again) which makes Jesus the minister of sin, which God has forbidden Him to be. (Gal 2:17) Christians have been taught the difference between the holy and profane, and can discern between the unclean, and the clean (Ez 44:23, 22:26); Another words Christians have an understanding heart so that they can judge people, (through the edifying use of the word) and discern between what is good (God moved) and what is bad (self-moved). (1Ki 3:9) Strong’s Greek # 5087 is equivalent to the Hebrew idea; and describes what needs to be put off; and what needs to be put on, so that we can become established (as Christian’s).

    It is spiritual pride to say that you are serving God and you are ignorant of the word of God. (Ps 119:21, Is 3:12, 9:16, Jer 23:32, Matt 22:29, Mk 12:24, Heb3:10, Jm 1:16) Christians are not ignorant of the word of God because they have an answer for every man (1Pet 3:15); And they understand the difference between relationship, and fellowship. Biblical fellowship is within unity, because these have the SAME mind, with singleness of heart, all in one accord (Acts 2:46); Relationships have conflict because of people’s different personalities. Believers are still trying to crucify their fleshy lusts, Christians have already crucified the lusts of their flesh (Gal 5:24); And they can walk in the Spirit, because they live in it, within all temperance, goodness, longsuffering, peace, and love (Gal 5:25-22); Believers manifest the works of the flesh which are: envy, idolatry, hatred, heresies, division, striving, and unrighteous deeds. Those that do these things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (5:19-21)

    Christians understand that they are to minister to those in the churches because they understand that the believers who don’t become Christian, will be tormented in hell “seven” times worse punishment than the devil. (Lev 26:18) This is why Christians know that if they can convert a believer from the error of their way, their soul can be saved from death, and a multitude of their sins can be covered. (Jm 5:19-20) Christians need to minister to those believers who put relationship before fellowship, so that they might become united in the word of God. (Acts 2:42 & 46) Believers who want to remain ignorant of these spiritual truths, let them remain ignorant, because God is a God of order, However, this is not for salvation (by remaining ignorant of these things) but rather for decency, and order. (1 Cor 14:38 & 40)
    In Jesus name, Amen.
     
  2. webdog

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    That's a lot of words to just say "Christ follower" :laugh:
     
  3. annsni

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    I was thinking the same thing. Years ago, when were on a bike trip with Youth for Christ (riding 500 miles in 8 days), we learned one morning a little chant "A Christian...is one...in whom Christ dwells" and I think of that whenever anyone asks what a Christian is. LOL!
     
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    Amen.

    Gal 2:20 "No I who live but CHRIST who lives IN ME"
     
  5. Tom Butler

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    Whew, the OP sure made my eyes glaze over.
     
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    ...and one who is "in Christ" at 1 Corinthians 1.30 (and several other verses) put it:

    But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God––and righteousness and sanctification and redemption––​
     
  7. Ztheberean

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    Actually, if you had studies out the scriptures, you would have seen and understooad the difference between a believer in Jesus, and a Christian.
     
  8. Ztheberean

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    Can you explain how Christ dwells in someone to make them a Christian, rather than just a believer in Jesus?
     
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    And parents do not give birth to wise and knowledgeable babies??
    "You must be born again."
     
  10. webdog

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    I have, it's pretty simple and straightforward.

    "Drop your nets and follow Me"

    Christ follower...Christian.
     
  11. Ztheberean

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    Ok, if there is not a difference between a believer and a Christian, then why is Jesus going to tell many believers to depart from Him, because He never knew them even though they did many wonderful works in His name, and taught in the streets? (Matt7:21-3)
     

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