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What is a definition of "neo-conservativism"?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by LRL71, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. The Galatian

    The Galatian New Member

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    There is no honor among neocons. :D
     
  2. church mouse guy

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  3. Bro. Curtis

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    Thanks, you nitwit. :mad:

    I was being serious. Please answer the question without the nonsense.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I have been called a neocon hundreds of times here. 'cuz I voted for Bush. No nonsense.

    I'm a neocon nitwit.
     
  4. fromtheright

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    A few articles that I think you will find helpful:

    TWS

    TWS 2

    URL=http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i34/34b01401.htm]Chronicle[/URL]

    AEI

    Public Interest

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  5. Bro. Curtis

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    I am a life-long Democrat, who left the party after seeing what Hillary Clinton did after 9/11. I was leaning away from it at first, due to Clinton having our military decimated, and his actions in the White house, especially in the last days.

    I now believe in less government.

    I fully support Israel, believe they are God's chosen nation, and hope our nation continues to back her. Since my father is God, and his nation is Israel, my first allegiance goes to her. The minuite our nation pulls the support, I'm on my knees begging for mercy, or a one way trip there. Since I served our nation, I cannot be called a traitor, 'cept by people who don't know how much I love America.
     
  6. KenH

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    My country allegiance is to the nation where I am a citizen - these United States of America. I have no allegiance to any other country. I think if one does not have his only country allegiance to the nation where he is a citizen, he should move to whatever country he can give his allegiance to.
     
  7. fromtheright

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    Bro. Curtis,

    Since I served our nation, I cannot be called a traitor,

    I mean absolutely nothing personal by this but only argue historically that service to one's country doesn't mean one cannot be or be called a traitor. Benedict Arnold and John Kerry come to mind. I do thank you very much for your service to America.
     
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    Interesting article I just discovered:

    GOPUSA News
     
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    FTR, thanks for the Novak article! That says it very interestingly! I don't think that I know any neo-cons.
     
  11. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I didn't say it was an attack. Germany and Japan were allies. It is ludicrous to think we could have fought Japan and not Germany. </font>[/QUOTE]Saddam and Al Quaeda were and are allies. You have made my point for me. Thank You. Just killing UBL and winning Afganistan is not going to win the war against terror, even though UBL was the mastermind of 9-11 and Afganistan was where he was being harbored, the terrorists were united all across the Middle East, and certainly in Iraq. Even though Germany never fired a shot against us before we entered Germany, their alliance with Japan was enough. As you said:

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Ken,

    Your vote for Bush is appreciated. But, that does not mean that I have to agree with your anti-Iraq war ideas. I don't think your isolationists ideas are right for America. I have not attacked you. I do attack your ideas, however.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    There is no honor among neocons. :D </font>[/QUOTE]That is really funny coming from a guy who was deriding President Reagan not even 24 hours after he was dead. No, if you want to see someone without any honor, you need to go to Massechussetts and meet the rich, liberal senator who labeled his fellow soldiers as war criminals, while they were being tortured in Hanoi. This would be the guy who talked James Warners mother into making accusation about war crimes, which was used by the Vietnemese against him while they tortured him and threatened to charge him with war crimes and execute him. There is someone with no honor whatsoever.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Yup. Can't wait to get to heaven. I guess that's REALLY my first allegiance. I'd be there now if I could.
     
  15. KenH

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    I am now in full support of the war in Iraq. There is enough ambiguity in the situation there that I can see why we needed to take out Saddam Hussein. Better to be safe than sorry.

    I am not an isolationist and have always supported a strong defense, even a forward defense during the Cold War.
     
  16. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I stand corrected then. Thank you for that clarification of your new position on the war. I apologize for my mis-characterization of you and am glad that you now understand the need to take out Saddam and liberate Iraq.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  17. StraightAndNarrow

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    A Neo-Con is a conservative who believes that America should rule the world. Many of Bush's most trusted advisors are Neo-Cons. Neo-Cons believe in a preemptive first strike against their (not necessarily America's) enemies just as was done in Iraq. They don't believe in any form of world justice or in the U.N. They don't rely on our allies. They use Christianity to solidify their position among American conservatives but they don't follow its tenets.
     
  18. The Galatian

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    I had been criticising his failure as a president for a long time. Dying didn't improve his performance. You may not like it, but the truth doesn't change.

    Our current president's deplorable failure to serve honorably in the National Guard? His White House staff outing one of our CIA agents to get even with her husband? Isn't that a wonderful example of neocon honor.

    There's a lot more. Do you need more?
     
  19. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Prove it. Please, don't use Dan Rather's forged memos to do so either. Perhaps you would like it better at DU Boards with all the other bitter liberals in this country. :D

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  20. LRL71

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    Ok, it sounds like this was a little more sticky that I thought it would. Please stay on the subject: the *definition* of neo-conservatism. Thanks to everyone here who posted something abou this subject. The other website that I frequently post at is skyscrapercity.com, and they are full of venomous liberals. I didn't really understand why they were accusing me of being 'neo-con' since I generally support President Bush and that I had voted for him twice. I defined myself there as a "Christian conservative" and not as a 'neo-con'.
     
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