What is "revivalism"?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by IFB Mole, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. IFB Mole

    IFB Mole
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2005
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    0
    Our church is having an evangelist coming at month end, that we call "Revival Week". I asked a Christian brother is he wanted to attend and he started going off that REAL Revival from God is not scheduled by us but is on God's time table not ours. We can't put Revival on the calander.

    He, in no uncertian terms, said we are practicing "revivalISM" he also called it "Finneyism".

    "God sends Revival on HIS timetable not OURS" he concluded.

    "Thanks, but no thanks" he said.

    What say ye? I have never heard that term before "revivalISM" and "Finneyism"

    Has anyone here heard that term and can they explain it more clearly to me??
     
  2. Andy T.

    Andy T.
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    3,147
    Likes Received:
    0
  3. 4His_glory

    4His_glory
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    2,884
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree with your friend. If you compare true revivals like the Great Awkening and the Welsh revival, to those of Finney and others that have adopted many of his methods, you will see stark differneces in results. Ture revivals had lasting results and were God-centered, and full of a rich theological heritage.

    The revivalism of Finney, while seeming to produce many desicions in fact did not. There were no lasting spiritual effects and many of the churches dried up.

    Ian Murray wrote a book titled "Revival and Revivalism" that does a good job of showing the differnece.
     
  4. USN2Pulpit

    USN2Pulpit
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2003
    Messages:
    1,641
    Likes Received:
    0
    While I don't know about the particulars, we don't have any evidence of these things going on at IFB Mole's church. And while it's true that only God brings revival, there's certainly no harm in a congregation having a week-long series of meetings with the intent to seek God and commit to live for Him. So they're calling it "Revival" - at worst, it's just the wrong word.

    Sometimes we get a little too technical for our own good.

    IFB Mole, God bless your church, and I hope He does bring revival starting there and reaching all the way into mid-Missouri! Also, I know excuses when I hear them...and that's what it seems your friend is doing.
     
  5. EdSutton

    EdSutton
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Messages:
    8,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    The brother is technically correct, I think. But I'd also guess, maybe in a lighter vein, bein' as you said "...he started going off that..." he maybe he just came up wid' an excuse, or just found a new and creative way to say 'No!' We can and do disagree. We don't have to be disagreeable when doing so. At times, I could learn from my own advice.
    Ed
     
  6. EdSutton

    EdSutton
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2006
    Messages:
    8,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    A wise brother, at the time a menber of my own home church, a few years ago was approcached by a friend who said, "I see you all are having a 'Revival'!" His wise (and somewhat wise-acre, as well) response was, "We're Having a meetin'; ask me in a year whether or not we had revival." Good advice. BTW, if you do happen to get an excess of 'Revival', you could send a little of it to old Kaintuck! We here, like with Jello(R), always have room for more!
    Ed
     
  7. eloidalmanutha

    eloidalmanutha
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2005
    Messages:
    589
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am curious why ya'all think there is such a thing as "revival"? Like can you point that out in the Bible anywhere - or I can even narrow it down to the NT? thanx :cool:
     
  8. bgoc bryan

    bgoc bryan
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    0
    I may be confused about any objection to a revival. I was saved at our church's summer revival in 1985. We had guest preachers and Baptist evangelists every night for one week. I was only 9 but it woke our church up. We spent a week with extra worship and prayer. It has always been my experience when belivers spend some extra time with the lord you will recive blessings. For me it has always been a time to refocus and strengthen on my relationship with the Lord. There are always moutain top moments and we always have to come down from the moutain.
     
  9. standingfirminChrist

    standingfirminChrist
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2005
    Messages:
    9,454
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
    Hosea 6:2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

    Revival must begin in the hearts. In the passage above, we see a cry for repentence. Revival is not just an overnight thing either. In the passage we see revival coming in the third day after the people's turning from sin and turning to God.
     
  10. JamesBell

    JamesBell
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2005
    Messages:
    226
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think people may be trying just a bit too hard. It seems to me that this is nothing more than a reason to shout and proclaim “WE’RE BETTER THAN YOU!” We all know that what we mean by the word “revival” and most Christians easily get the message. We are seeking to revive our particular congregation through more regular worship and teaching. We are seeking to revive ourselves through more dedication. And we are seeking to revive the community through an outreach and more opportunities to have behinds in pews.

    To claim that this is something wrong just because it doesn’t meet up with your own definition of “revival” is trivial and a needless division in the Body of Christ. No, the revivals held by your local church don’t necessarily meet up to the great works of the Holy Spirit in those cases mentioned. However, I will not place a limit on my God and tell Him that a revival that we hold isn’t going to produce a harvest. Sorry, my God is able to work in all situations, and the more opportunity we give Him, the greater the things we will see.
     
  11. eloidalmanutha

    eloidalmanutha
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2005
    Messages:
    589
    Likes Received:
    0
    I believe that passage is a prophecy concerning Jesus. The word "revive" means to live again.
     
  12. IFB Mole

    IFB Mole
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2005
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the responses one and all. Boy of boy, I did a Google search on Finney and Finneyism and your head spins!!

    As a note many of us are fasting and praying that God WILL send a Revival. Like a few mentioned I guess it is semantics, but the purpose is to get Christians to be on fire and Spirit lead 24/7 not just on Sundays and Wednesdays, etc. ALL THE TIME.

    I know I need it, the cares and entertainment of this world so easily captivates me that it is SOOOO easy to neglect Bible reading, prayer, telling the lost of Christ, trying to live a life that is Christ honoring, etc. For others it may not be tough, but for me it is. I DO need an extra helping of the Holy Spirit.
     

Share This Page

Loading...