what is, the prayer of salvation, exactly?

HisWordIsTruth · Apr 16, 2008

A totally meaningless, 'religious'-sounding, catch-word, phrase - nothing more or less!

And I have heard (and continue to hear) this phrase used innumerable times, over the years. It has been 'used' so often that it has become one of the many phrases of "Canonized Rhetoric" that we hear, so often, - empty and devoid of any Biblical meaning (although some of them contain false teachings ensconced), but oft-repeated, nonetheless.

BTW, phrases such as "The sinner's prayer"; "Repent of your sins"; "Commit your life to Jesus"; "Give your heart to the Lord"; "Make Jesus Lord"; fall into this category, as well, with the last one actually reaching the heights of arrogance, and actually above that of Satan, where Satan said "I will be like the Most High!"

(Ed now grabs his hard-hat to avoid getting hit on the head from the, certain to come, bricks!)

To my knowledge, there is not one Scriptural reference to any such thing, hence it is entirely meaningless, even though I do believe it is usually asked by well-intentioned individuals. But it (and the rest) simply is not Biblical.

OK, back to the regularly scheduled argument:

"Carry on!"

Ed
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Great post Ed!

Amy.G · Apr 16, 2008

HisWordIsTruth said:

No there is one that you have left unanswered and that is why I said we are starting to talk in circles, because you are wanting to skip ahead when we haven't come to a conclusion on the foundation.

So I'll ask again. Do you agree that Acts 16:30-31, Eph. 2:8-9 are not speaking of the same subject as Romans 10:9 and other areas of Scripture (gospels especially)?
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I already answered that.

I think they are both the same thing, just put a different way.
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Are you going to withold your interpretation of Romans 10 if I don't agree with you?

How can I debate you if I don't know what you believe? Are you debating or are you teaching?

standingfirminChrist · Apr 16, 2008

Appears to me he's trolling.

EdSutton · Apr 16, 2008

Revmitchell said:

To believe to such would be to espouse two differing salvations. That would be heresy.
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I have been saved (Eph. 2:8-9 - NKJV & cp. Jn. 5:24) from the condemnation of the penalty of sin.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
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I am being saved (I Cor. 1:18 - NKJV & cp. Rom. 6) from the power of sin.

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
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I shall be saved (Rom. 5:9-11 - NKJV & cp. Rev. 21:27) from wrath, by Jesus' life and from the presence of sin.

9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. 11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
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That's three salvations, is it not??

Is it your contention that the Bible is 'espousing' heresy?

Ed

webdog · Apr 16, 2008

EdSutton said:

I have been saved (Eph. 2:8-9 - NKJV)from the penalty of sin.from the penalty of sin.
I am being saved (I Cor. 1:18 - NKJV) from the power of sin.
I shall be saved (Rom. 5:9-11 - NKJV & cp. Rev. 21:27) from wrath, by Jesus' life and from the presence of sin.That's three salvations, is it not??

Is it your contention that the Bible is 'espousing' heresy?

Ed
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Those are all sub categories of the same salvation.

DHK · Apr 16, 2008

HisWordIsTruth said:

No there is one that you have left unanswered and that is why I said we are starting to talk in circles, because you are wanting to skip ahead when we haven't come to a conclusion on the foundation.

So I'll ask again. Do you agree that Acts 16:30-31, Eph. 2:8-9 are not speaking of the same subject as Romans 10:9 and other areas of Scripture (gospels especially)?
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This question has already been answered countless of times.
The troll has been fed.
The thread is dead.

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