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What is torture?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Reformer, Jan 31, 2009.

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  1. Reformer

    Reformer New Member

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    Let me tell a story first. I was at work the other day talking about he closing of Gitmo and the subject of "torture" came up. One of the people in the conversation said "no reason we shouldn't at least deny them sleep, spit in their face, put them in the coldest or hottest conditions possible, make them run until they can't feel their legs then hose them down with a water hose, and then gas them until they can't stand it, all the while telling how big a piece of (explicative) they were!"

    I replied to him with a "well, that might be a little far" his response shocked the heck out of me, he said "Why? We do it good American citizens everyday, we just call them Marines when they do it for 6 weeks"

    I was speechless, I defiantly got his point. We can do something to a American and call it "training" and that is fine but if we do the same thing to a terrorist it is called torture.

    There are several differences in the circumstances of the two people but if the same action is being taken, well, would you say we "torture" our military, and if so why isn't anybody fighting for them and only the terrorist?


    for the record I am not saying I agree or disagree with my coworker, just offering some food for thought.
     
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  2. abcgrad94

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    You make a very good point. The reason people fight for the terrorist and not our military is because it's "politically correct" to pity the terrorists and to disrespect our military.
     
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  3. saturneptune

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    To me, and it is just an opinion, torture is physical harm to the human body. Anything short of that, which includes all mind games and making the person think he is going through some physical torture, is ok with me. If it means they are mentally uncomfortable for a short period verses saving American lives, then the choice is clear.

    I do not believe President Bush ever authorized torture. He may have gone up to the brink, but how many American lives were saved? Bush had lots of negatives, but that is not one of them.
     
    #3 saturneptune, Jan 31, 2009
  4. Enoch

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    What is torture?

    Listening to Keith Olbermann...sorry I could not resist.
     
    #4 Enoch, Jan 31, 2009
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    Watching the democrats destroy our economy & blame free market capitalism is torture.

    Any time I have to listen to Barney Frank talk about anything.

    Waiting for Chris Dodd to find his mortgage papers he promised to show us 8 months ago.

    Listening to preachers & other "Christians" tell me there is no biblical mandate against abortion.

    Posters who will not engage debate, just spout the same talking points & disappear over & over & over.
     
    #5 Bro. Curtis, Jan 31, 2009
  6. OldRegular

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    I don't listen to anyone on MSNBC or for that matter ABC, CBS, or NBC. Haven't for years.

    Torture for me is seeing O'bama on TV. I always hit the mute button just as I did when Clinton occupied the White House.
     
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    If it's torture to do it to one man why isn't it torture to do it to another? Why are their apparently double standards on this issue?
     
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  8. Reformer

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    I read an interesting quote this past week I had to share.

     
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  9. SeekingTruth

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    To some on this board, torture does not extend to cutting an unborn child into small pieces and dragging them from its mother's womb, or submitting the unborn child to a chemical substance to, in effect, burn it to death, or allowing a birth to proceed to the point where the head is nearly born, then punching a hole in the head and sucking its brains out. I guess it depends on one's political beliefs.
     
    #9 SeekingTruth, Feb 2, 2009
  10. Revmitchell

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    To some torture is that very thing the Obama admin is leaving room for the possibility of.
     
    #10 Revmitchell, Feb 2, 2009
  11. hillclimber1

    hillclimber1 Active Member
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    To me this is the most salient post on this thread.
     
    #11 hillclimber1, Feb 2, 2009
  12. Alive in Christ

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    Being forced to listen to Rap. :eek:

    Ba da boom.


    Sorry...couldnt resist :)


    :godisgood:
     
    #12 Alive in Christ, Feb 2, 2009
  13. Alive in Christ

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    :laugh:

    Having now read the entire thread, I see now that I'm not the only one who "couldnt resist".:smilewinkgrin:


    :godisgood:
     
    #13 Alive in Christ, Feb 2, 2009
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