Let me tell a story first. I was at work the other day talking about he closing of Gitmo and the subject of "torture" came up. One of the people in the conversation said "no reason we shouldn't at least deny them sleep, spit in their face, put them in the coldest or hottest conditions possible, make them run until they can't feel their legs then hose them down with a water hose, and then gas them until they can't stand it, all the while telling how big a piece of (explicative) they were!" I replied to him with a "well, that might be a little far" his response shocked the heck out of me, he said "Why? We do it good American citizens everyday, we just call them Marines when they do it for 6 weeks" I was speechless, I defiantly got his point. We can do something to a American and call it "training" and that is fine but if we do the same thing to a terrorist it is called torture. There are several differences in the circumstances of the two people but if the same action is being taken, well, would you say we "torture" our military, and if so why isn't anybody fighting for them and only the terrorist? for the record I am not saying I agree or disagree with my coworker, just offering some food for thought.