What people don't understand about hell...

The Road to Hell for Certain!

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The road to Hell For Certain




Ed

 

I have no problem reconciling a loving God and Hell.

God loves us, as well as all people. He does not want any to perish, but He loves us enough to respect our choices regarding Him and His offer of salvation. Basically, God does not send anyone to hell... we send ourselves.

I can praise God for hell. Sound strange? Maybe it is, but He has shown me that He knows what he is doing. I know I have family members in hell, as well as my late sister. I hard a hard time after her death because of this, but God loved me through it. Now I praise Him for His holiness, for it is His holiness that she is measured against and found wanting.

 

Whatever figurative language we use to describe hell, it is ultimately separation from God, and that would be hell enough for me.

Cheers,

Jim

 

I have problems with decisions that man makes. Being born ,to some people would be a tragic thing. It would be so bad for someone who had nothing to do with their natural birth to be required to save themselves when GOD does all the saving and we should leave it in his hands. I cannot say that anyone knows where the person goes after they die pertaining to Heaven or Hell. Let me use this sanerio: All good people goe to heaven and all bad people go to Hell.
I'm good, so I go to Heaven, You're bad (I don't mean you personally) so you go to Hell. You would be in a much better condition if you was not born. Why put someone in this terrible fix. He would be better off to have never been born. Let's leave Almighty GOD in charge of that. He is just and perfect. we are a product of mankind.

 

Yep. Spot on friend.

 

My two centavos worth:

1. We often think of the love of God according to our experience concerning love, when in reality God's love is nothing like ours.

2. Some ask the question "if God is loving how can He send men to hell?". But this is the wrong way to ask the question, it is very man-focused. We ought rather to ask: "Since God is so holy, and His justice so right, how is it that He lets me take another breath let alone shower me with His mercy and grace?" We are so despicable that even letting us live is an act of His love and mercy.

 

We should be nothing but saddened that many will perish for eternity.

While it would be nice (in our fallen human sense of "fairness") if that where the case, I do not find anywhere in Scripture that states this to be true. If it where true, then why bother sending missionaries into countries with no gospel witness because the people may reject them and then be accountable and go to hell?

Fact is that the only way God saves people is by His grace through the proclamation of the Gospel producing faith and repentance in those whom He brings to Himself. God has ordained that the Gospel be heralded in all lands because it is the only solution to the problem of sin in the world. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation, not men´s ignorance of it.

 

I agree with 4_His glory's comments.

A general softening sound doctrine along with not wanting to think people go to hell is why Inclusivism is getting into the evangelical church.

God is love but he also has wrath on sin. They are both equal in his nature and present all the time, along with all his attributes. When God loves someone, his wrath on sin never disappears; and his wrath on sin does not affect his love. But his justice and wrath on sin require that one who is not cleansed by the blood of Christ cannot abide with Him after death.

Otherwise, we'd either have people getting a 2nd chance after death to believe (contrary to Heb 9.27), or unregenerated sinners not cleansed by Christ getting in heaven. So would they be there because of good works? That is also contrary to scripture.

 

Hell is the penalty of original sin as passed on through Adam to all humanity, and has nothing to do with subsequent committing of sin in our lives.

In eternity past, God chose a people to be His elect and passed by the remainder to eternal damnation. Again, nothing to do with consequent sin, or God's "sending" some to hell. The term "passed by" is essential regarding the unsaved. Then one must truly understand the nature of God and His absolute sovereignty.

There is no such thing as the "age of accountability" which develops because we felt sorry for some infants or children who died without a "chance" to accept Christ as Saviour. This leads to a false understanding of who God is and the order of the decrees.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Jim, I agree with what you have posted

 

And another thing. If a man can (and is) by not be giving the word of GOD and thereforth be saved, then we should burn every bible and ect conserning GOD, then he would be saved through ignorance. Why make it a requirement that if he hears the word and doesn't act upon it, he will split Hell wide open. Why put him in that kind of fix and he would go to hell by not acting upon HIS DECISION.
As it is stated in the BIBLE that Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated. I can see that Jacob was quiet a trickster. His Mother and Jacob stole Esau's blessing when they fooled Isac and Isiac blessed Jacob through trickery. I find that Esau was not a very bad person, but GOD didn't favor him.Jacob was a deceiver at times. I don't know why, but GOD did the chooling. I read in the nt that Esau sought repentence carefully with tears, and was not. It would seem that if Esau sought repentance, that GOD would have forgiven him. I see that as Man would see it, but GOD is the judge and I will leave it at that.

 

Hell is a consequence of not receiving the Lord Jesus Christ. While I do stand on what have been called "the doctrines of grace" it is incorrect to suggest that God will not address the real personal guilt of each individual. Scripture is clear that God will judge unbelievers according to their works, not according to Adam's sin passed to his posterity.

The wicked dead are clearly judged "according to their works" and since no one will be justified on the basis of their works, this must be a judgment of the works for the purpose of condemnation and then consignment to the lake of fire, the eternal abode of all unbelievers.


Recognizing the absolute sovereignty of God in no way denies personal responsibility.


Note:

The fact that the cross was according to "the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God" does minimize the guilt of the ones with "wicked hands" who crucified and slew the Lord Jesus in a fully responsible and culpable manner.


and no, I will not drink to your post. Is there any other context in which "cheers" is used?

RJP

 

"cheers" in my context has nothing to do with drinking. It is the most common form of greeting used in England, and I just carry on with my English tradition. I abhor alcohol as a beverage.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Works are good indeed Grace is more abounding. Adam and Eve, when they seen their own nakedness, they did some works too. They sewed fig leaves and clothed their bodies, but GOD did something for them knowing that the fig leafs were not sufficant. He sacraficed animan/s and made them clothing from an aminal (sacrafice) in order to cloth them his own way. Man tried to sew leaves, which would dry and rot and that was not proper because man tried his own work and it didn't work. Now let's try Grace: that'll work.

 

And sadly man is still trying to sew leaves together. And in his mind they work just fine, but how he does not see his faulty garment as God sees it. Once again proving the need for grace.

Good post.

 

Jim I preach on this quite often. While I do not deny a literal hell fire the ultimate point is that we will be separated from God without any of His glory. What that actually looks like is beyond me but the possibility of that reality is quite frightening. And then left to our own sin and depravity. Lord Save me

 

Well I know one thing I don't want to be in hell no matter what is looks like. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. raying: