What should US foreign policy be?

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  1. church mouse guy

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    David Horowitz in Front Page Magazine documents recent foreign policy failures and speaks about How Obama Betrayed America. He makes this observation:

    "In the four years since Obama’s first inauguration, almost three times as many Americans have been killed in Afghanistan as in the eight years of the Bush administration. Withdrawal, not victory, has been Obama’s goal from the outset, and now it is the only outcome possible. During the Obama years, there have been more than 8,000 Islamic terrorist attacks on “infidels” across the globe, a twenty-five percent rise over the years in which the fighting in Iraq was at its height. Yet, in the face of this bloody and intensifying Islamist offensive, Obama has tried to convince the American people that the war against al-Qaeda has been essentially “won” — by him — and the terrorist threat is subsiding. Denial of the war Islamists have declared on us and denial of the threat it represents is the heart of the Obama doctrine that has guided this nation’s policies for more than four years."

    Here is the link to David Horowitz: http://frontpagemag.com/2013/david-horowitz/how-obama-betrayed-america/

    So the question to you is what should be done?
     
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    It seems the whole premise of this article is based on a false assumption. With all the information the author has access to I can only conclude this intentional. First of all it's not Obama's foreign policy he's just a telemprompter reading servant of foreign banks and corporations. It's their foreign policy. America's foreign policy is formulated by corporate funded think tanks. Most of these corporate backers are transnational meaning they have no loyalty to this or any other country. Google "Brookings Institute" for instance. Who are the corporate sponsors? They're the same transnational corporations that back La Raza. Look it up. Better yet read the blueprint for their foreign policy. It's posted on Brookings website as "which path to Persia" this is the plan Obama is following. It's not a failure at all. Everything is going according to plan. Go read it and Compare it to what's been going on.
     
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    I think someone needs their meds.
     
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    I may need some of those meds -
    I have just come across info that proves that Baptist Board is controled by policy formulated by corporate funded think tanks. Most of these corporate backers are transnational meaning they have no loyalty to this or any other country.
     
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    Brookings Institute "Which Path To Persia". Read it. Sponsored by foriegn mega banks and corporations. Or remain ignorant your choice.
     
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    You guys took the blue pill didn't ya? I can tell. What are you suuposed to be now Salty another one of those self appointed BB conspiracy cops standing guard over the hopelessly brainwashed minds of the masses? To late bud the truth already leaked out. Idea, why don't you two go read the report then we can have a grown up discussion about the evidence instead of the usual childish nonsence you guys insist on whenever you get confronted by the cold hard facts.
     
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    I don't know what false assumption that you are talking about as you do not specify exactly. As for the Brookings Institute, it is a liberal Democrat site and I do not know what link you want me to read because the Path to Persia book had a lot of panel discussions associated with it that come up when you search Brookings.

    We all object to what Obama has done on the question of Iran, and that is part of what David Horowitz is talking about--the mishandling of the war against Islamic terror.
     
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    Background: Within the library of the Brookings Institute you will find the blueprints for nearly every conflict the West has been involved with in recent memory. What's more is that while the public seems to think these crises spring up like wildfires, those following the Brookings' corporate funded studies and publications see these crises coming years in advance. These are premeditated, meticulously planned conflicts that are triggered to usher in premeditated, meticulously planned solutions to advance Brookings' corporate supporters, who are numerous. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html?m=1 Your real government.

    The Rev isn't a fool Arbo he's hip to the globalists. Looks like it's still just you and Spaceboy.
     
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    Poncho, you have linked me to a book of 145 pages of liberal Democrat think tank stuff about Iran with your Path to Persia link. You are claiming that Obama got his idea from the Brookings Institute. It could be that this is so since liberal Democrats live in a small ivy league world. So what? The policy is an abject failure and Obama has been the one who has advocated it since 2007. The war on terror is actually getting worse under Obama.

    The question is what should we do to get out of this mess?
     
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    Let me ask you this CMG. If the Brookings Institution is as you say a liberal Democrat think tank why do you suppose that the same transnational banks and corporations are funding all the conservative Republican think tanks to?

    It's not about right or left. It's not Bush's policy or Obama's policy at all. It's the policy of foreign banks and corporations. The first thing we need to to "fix" it is to stop looking at it as a left vs right issue because it isn't. It's a case of we the people vs the forien banks and corporations that have hijacked both wings of our government.

    If we keep looking at as a left vs right issue then we'll just keep arguing amongst ourselves about it until the banks and corporations have eaten the whole substance of our country and enslaved us all just as Thomas Jefferson predicted 200 years ago.

    In order to get out of this mess we must first understand who's policy y it really is.
     
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    The "war on terror" is that really the right name for it? On one hand our government funds and arms extremists and radicals in other countries and use them as proxy fighting forces while on the other hand our government uses them as a scarey boogeyman to frighten us into accepting an authoritarian government here at home?

    Sounds more like a war of terror than a war on terror.

    What do you suggest we do to get out of this mess?
     
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    Funny, everyone you interact act with posts childish nonsense according to you. I do not know why you are joking about the blue pill. Evidentally it failed for you, and my guess is, poste-vac does not work either. That is what happens when one generates hot air 24 hours a day.
     
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    Post ten thousand times on BB of course.
     
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    I just find it interesting that you can't admit you're wrong in public. Why not send me another secret pm and ask for forgiveness again? "Gee Poncho I'm awful sorry I acted like an idiot towards you. If you forgive me I promise to be more open minded".

    What ever happened to that?

    My challenge still stands. There's a thread already posted. Waiting.
     
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    "...and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."
     
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    Actually what still stands is paying for a one way ticket for you. Just choose the destination amongst the choices.
     
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    Poncho, I myself do not know who fund the Brookings Institute or any other so-called think-tanks. I tend to agree with you that Obama probably got his policy of appeasement from the Brookings Institute because there is no indication that he has original positions on subjects. He has not released any of his publications except his own books.

    As for what to do, David Horowitz thinks that the GOP abandoned the war in Iraq along with the Democrats, who originally supported the war and called for it themselves when Clinton was President in a 1998 resolution. The Democrats had access to the same intelligence as Bush and they supported Bush, according to Horowitz.

    However, now Iraq is at the mercy of Iran and the Islamic Shiite jihadists.

    So Horowitz wants the GOP to stand up and resume leadership in the war against Islamic terror to provide for national security. Thus the decision has to be made by the GOP on what to do about Afghanistan. Clearly, Islam has to be contained as communism was and Islam has to be isolated economically. The Arabs and other Islamists are much more polite when they are broke.

    Domestically, we need to follow Mosque-Buster in England and stop the construction of Islamic facilities on American soil.
     
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    "It's easy. We marched 'em in. We can turn around and march 'em out"

    Ron Paul ( 2008 Republican debates)

    After leaving we can talk about changing our foreign aid policies.
     

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